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Democrats at Work

Posted in Politics by Michael LaBossiere on August 6, 2013
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  1. WTP said, on August 6, 2013 at 6:05 pm

    Cool. I’ll go first. How about using the power to get help for an injured Marine as a bargaining chip for sex? Hey baby, you can help that wounded warrior if you’d just loosen up a little. You satisify my needs and I’ll see what I can do for your lady hero over there.

    SAN DIEGO — A nurse alleged Tuesday that Mayor Bob Filner sexually harassed her when she met with him to seek help for a Marine injured in Iraq.

    Filner promised to help the Marine with the Department of Veterans Affairs but then told the nurse that she was attractive and that he wanted to take her on a date, according to the nurse and her attorney, Gloria Allred.

    The nurse, Michelle Tyler, said she met with Filner when he was a congressmen and later as mayor.

    “I believe a person in power should not take advantage of their position to gain a sexual advantage,” Tyler said at a news conference, her voice breaking.

    Tyler said that she met with Filner in his mayoral office in June and that he made clear that helping the injured Marine was contingent on Tyler dating him.

    “I felt that his rubbing my arm and telling me to relax … was extremely inappropriate and unacceptable,” Tyler said.

    To try to use his office to “satisfy his sexual needs,” Allred said, is an abuse of Filner’s power that should be investigated by the city attorney


    And don’t worry, no one will ever know. We’ve got the mainstream media on our side. Even if they hear about it, they won’t say nothin’. Be a good girl. Do your duty.

  2. Nal said, on August 6, 2013 at 7:00 pm

    Weiner Texting Pal, Sydney Leathers

    Scoll down for pictures. Not Suitable For Lunchtime.

    • T. J. Babson said, on August 6, 2013 at 10:08 pm


      • WTP said, on August 6, 2013 at 10:58 pm

        Is that cat for “oink”?

  3. T. J. Babson said, on August 6, 2013 at 10:03 pm

    The cake is a lie.

    • WTP said, on August 6, 2013 at 10:55 pm

      “We know he has a sense of humor so that is why we play it” – how nice. No harm, no foul.

  4. WTP said, on August 8, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan unveiled the federal rule at the NAACP convention in July.

    “Unfortunately, in too many of our hardest hit communities, no matter how hard a child or her parents work, the life chances of that child, even her lifespan, is determined by the zip code she grows up in. This is simply wrong,” he said.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/08/obama-administration-using-housing-department-to-compel-diversity-in/?intcmp=trending#ixzz2bOfugJTm

    Correct. This is simply wrong. And not the ending a sentence with a preposition part. The zip code has nothing to do with the problem. The problem lies in the community within that zip code. Forcing the members of that community upon others will only disperse the problem. Address the problem. We have a government in things racial that continues to be, in too many ways, essentially a government of cowards.

    Just as in this, from last year.
    President Barack Obama is backing a controversial campaign by progressives to regulate schools’ disciplinary actions so that members of major racial and ethnic groups are

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/27/obama-backs-race-based-school-discipline-policies/#ixzz2bOjDC3wL

  5. T. J. Babson said, on August 8, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Dems running from specter (or maybe SPECTRE–just re-watched Dr. No) of Death Panels…

    ObamaCare ‘death panel’ faces growing opposition from Dems
    By Elise Viebeck – 08/08/13 05:00 AM ET

    ObamaCare’s cost-cutting board — memorably called a “death panel” by Sarah Palin — is facing growing opposition from Democrats who say it will harm people on Medicare.

    Former Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean drew attention to the board designed to limit Medicare cost growth when he called for its repeal in an op-ed late last month.

    Dean was quickly criticized by supporters of the Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB), who noted his ties to the healthcare industry as an adviser to a major D.C. lobbying firm.

    But the former Vermont governor is not the only Democrat looking to kill the panel.

    A wave of vulnerable Democrats over the past three months has signed on to bills repealing the board’s powers, including Sen. Mark Pryor (Ark.) and Reps. Ron Barber (Ariz.), Ann Kirkpatrick (Ariz.), Kyrsten Sinema (Ariz.) and Elizabeth Esty (Conn.).


  6. T. J. Babson said, on August 8, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    Masterful analysis.

    While a person untutored in the ways of Washington might conclude that recent events show President Obama is in the last stages of losing the vestiges of American influence in the Middle East, passively watching the rearmament of Japan, haplessly presiding over the resurrection of the Cold War, and being driven back by al-Qaeda into a static defense of the homeland, this cannot possibly be true: the Beltway pundits have decreed otherwise.

    None of these bad things is yet fait accompli, but if any are to be avoided, the political establishment has to acquire a degree of intellectual honesty and vision which it has so far conspicuously lacked. They at least have to start calling things by their proper names.

    Historians may mark the middle of 2013, with its cascade of catastrophes and the sale of former media giants for chump change, as the time when the first signs of fear entered the Realm of the Sun King. When they sensed their jobs, pensions, and status were in peril. When they apprehended the first forebodings of physical danger — not from those who they declared public enemies, like the Tea Party, or Sarah Palin — but from those who, in PC piety, they had declared and thought their friends. When they realized they might one day ask: “Where are my legions O Varrus? Where are my legions?” And I don’t mean the Legion of Doom, either.

    In other news, Japan launched a destroyer — the DDH-183, JS Izumo.


  7. T. J. Babson said, on August 8, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    3 felonies per day.

    We’ve heard a lot of talk lately about mass incarceration, the stop-and-frisk policies in New York, reforming the drug laws, and mandatory minimum sentencing. There’s also been discussion about over-criminalization — that we have too many laws, too broadly enforced — from groups as ideologically diverse as the Heritage Foundation, the ACLU, the Cato Institute, and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.

    But here’s a related statistic that’s pretty mind blowing in and of itself: According to the FBI, in 2011 there were 3991.1 arrests for every 100,000 people living in America. That means over the course of a single year, one in 25 Americans was arrested.


    • WTP said, on August 8, 2013 at 4:09 pm

      Or one guy was arrested 3991.1 times. OK, two guys arrested 1495.55 times each. And I’d be willing to bet neither of them were the guy who broke into my car in Pittsburgh back in 2011.

      • T. J. Babson said, on August 8, 2013 at 10:39 pm

        I have no patience for crime or criminals, but we have to stop putting people in jail for victimless crimes like smoking dope.

        • WTP said, on August 9, 2013 at 7:54 am

          Agree. But the pressure if the law on decent people occurs way outside the domain of arrests, etc. it’s the excessive regulation, nuisance gotcha taxes, and such. Most people locked up for drugs would likely be there for other legitimate reasons. the typical doobie smoker may get harassed by the law but is unlikely to do time. so the arrest statistics don’t bother me quite as much. Again, I don’t like the drug war, nor the very negative effects it has on society, but I also find it hard to feel much sympathy for the typical pot head who basically needs to get a job and get a life.

  8. T. J. Babson said, on August 8, 2013 at 11:00 pm

    This is not America. Wake up, Mike.

    My Fellow Users,

    I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit. After significant soul searching, I have decided to suspend operations. I wish that I could legally share with you the events that led to my decision. I cannot. I feel you deserve to know what’s going on–the first amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise. As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests.

    What’s going to happen now? We’ve already started preparing the paperwork needed to continue to fight for the Constitution in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. A favorable decision would allow me resurrect Lavabit as an American company.

    This experience has taught me one very important lesson: without congressional action or a strong judicial precedent, I would _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States.

    Ladar Levison
    Owner and Operator, Lavabit LLC


  9. T. J. Babson said, on August 8, 2013 at 11:10 pm

    Do Democrats do math? Not so much, unfortunately for us.

    How’s the left-wing, ivory-tower, we-know-best elitist Obamanomics working for you? Here’s the news.
    First-quarter gross domestic product numbers for 2013 were recently revised — downward from 1.8 percent to 1.1 percent. For perspective, four years into the recovery from the last deep recession in ’81-’82, the economy grew at 4.1 percent.

    What about the declining “labor force participation rate”?

    This counts the percentage of civilians 16 years and older working or actively looking for work. When President Barack Obama took office, the labor force participation rate was 65.7. Today it is 63.4, up 0.1 from April’s 34-year low. Frustrated, many able-bodied and able-minded would-be workers have simply given up looking for jobs.

    The number of people receiving federally subsidized food assistance today exceeds the number of full-time, private-sector working Americans. The number of Americans receiving foods stamps (now called SNAP) has reached 47.5 million, increasing an average of 13 percent a year from 2008 to 2012. Almost 9 million disabled American workers currently collect federal Social Security benefits — double the number of disabled in the late ’90s — many admitting that they could work, but choose not to look.

    Just to break even — to keep pace with new entrants into the market — the economy must produce 150,000 jobs per month. To date, Obama’s four years of recovery have produced 4,657,000 jobs — an average of 97,020 per month. At this juncture in the ’80s, following the last big recession, the economy had produced 11.2 million new jobs, or 233,333 per month.

    Read more: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/08/08/when_will_they_see_that_this_is_one_bad_recovery__119543.html#ixzz2bRCO6uEt

  10. WTP said, on August 9, 2013 at 11:19 am

    The “reality-based community” of rational Democrats at work:

    The document, as Bedard writes, instructs politicians and advocates “to hype high-profile gun incidents like the Florida slaying of Trayvon Martin to win support for new gun control laws.” Essentially it’s a how-to book on inciting a moral panic.

    The most powerful time to communicate is when concern and emotions are running at their peak,” it advises. Antigun advocates are urged to seize opportunistically on horrific crimes: “The debate over gun violence in America is periodically punctuated by high-profile gun violence incidents including Columbine, Virginia Tech, Tucson, the Trayvon Martin killing, Aurora, and Oak Creek. When an incident such as these attracts sustained media attention, it creates a unique climate for our communications efforts.”

    The booklet explicitly urges foes of the Second Amendment to abjure rationality in favor of the argumentum ad passiones, or appeal to emotion. “When talking to broader audiences, we want to meet them where they are,” the authors advise. “That means emphasizing emotion over policy prescriptions, keeping our facts and our case simple and direct, and avoiding arguments that leave people thinking they don’t know enough about the topic to weigh in.”


    Original source:

    Click to access gun-violencemessaging-guide-pdf-1.pdf

  11. T. J. Babson said, on August 9, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    We are becoming a police state. Maybe we already are a police state. Where is our love for freedom?

    Chilling video from a home in Dekalb County, Ga., shows local police entering a house illegally, berating the home’s residents and then tackling them to the ground.

    The entire incident took place because the mother of the home, Natania Griffin, was two weeks late on paying a $1,000 fee to the county.

    Griffin’s 23-year-old son, Donovan Hall, recorded the event. He was alarmed and confused when police began banging loudly on his door in the middle of the night.

    “I was immediately confused as to why the police would be at my house,” Hall told the Huffington Post. “The knocks became more and more aggressive.”

    On the video (see below), Hall timidly opens the door and asks the police why they are at the house. But police quickly enter the home and soon pin Donovan and his brother on the ground.

    “One officer hit me in the face with his gun and I fell to the floor,” Hall said. “Another officer began kicking me and bending back my arms. They put handcuffs on me and continued to kick and punch me. At that point, an officer with his knee in my back stood up and put both feet on top of my head. He was standing on top of my head.”

    The officer’s continued being violent to the boys, even putting a Taser to the head of Hall’s younger brother.

    “Why are you being so aggressive, sir?” Hall asks in the video. “We haven’t done anything wrong.”

    The officers never answered Hall’s question.

    Later in the video, an officer can be heard saying “I wish I could cane both of y’all.”


    • WTP said, on August 9, 2013 at 11:12 pm

      Many open questions there. I had good friends who lived in Decatur, whom I used to visit every other summer growing up. It was a nice, middle class neighborhood. But I surmise from my friends’ politics, those there that I met, and those I knew second hand ( one of the Indigo Girls moms was friend with my friend’s mom) , dekalb county is going the way of Detroit. Corrupt government and middle class (white AND black) flight is eroding what was once a very nice place to live.

  12. WTP said, on August 10, 2013 at 9:21 am

    YES!! The answer to all that ails the poor! Mandarin Chinese.

    Public schools in Macon, Ga., and surrounding Bibb County have a lot of problems. Most of the 25,000 students are poor enough to qualify for free and reduced lunch, and about half don’t graduate.

    Bibb County’s Haitian-born superintendent Romain Dallemand came into the job last year with a bag of changes he calls “The Macon Miracle.” There are now longer schools days, year-round instruction, and one mandate nobody saw coming: Mandarin Chinese for every student, pre-K through 12th grade.

    “Students who are in elementary school today, by 2050 they’ll be at the pinnacle of their career,” Dallemand says. “They will live in a world where China and India will have 50 percent of the world GDP. They will live in a world where, if they cannot function successfully in the Asian culture, they will pay a heavy price.”

    The socialist dream of a rising China. No one knows where the economy will be or who will lead the world in 30 years. The same crap was being said about Japan 30 years ago.

    This is an indication of how far to the left these idiot, over educated “educators” are. Not that learning an odd, very different language is a bad idea per se, but forcing it on everyone? How controlling. How arrogant. These children’s time would be much better invested in MATH or SCIENCE or TECHNOLOGY. Not shoving a language lottery ticket down kids’ throats. And this is happening in GA no less. SF, NY, LA, Chicago, one might laugh it off. Like this quote too:

    Some parents see a Communist regime enacting its geopolitical agenda on their children. The more common critique, however, is not political. It is the practical concern.

    “Bibb County is not known for producing the highest-achieving graduates,” says Macon resident Dina McDonald. “You’ll see that many of them can’t even speak basic English.” <—ENGLISH, BINGO!

    Yeah, those paranoid, commie-hating right-wingers down there in fly-over country. Thems just don't understand. I'd be willing to bet the Dalemand character sees himself as Albert Schwitzer or David Livingstone. How much racism is there. And this on NPR of course.

    • T. J. Babson said, on August 10, 2013 at 10:32 am

      True story.

      I was once visited by the owner of a Japanese company who makes a very specialized (and very expensive) piece of scientific equipment. He happened to mention that he was going to China after his visit with me. Out of curiosity, I asked him what language he uses to conduct business when he is in China. He looked at me as if I had asked a really stupid question, and said “English, of course.”

      • WTP said, on August 17, 2013 at 2:39 pm

        English has been the lingua franca since the French took a hard left turn into irrelevancy. Ah, but of what use is history?

  13. WTP said, on August 11, 2013 at 9:20 am

    In the interest of diversity, here’s some European Keynesians at work. Lets throw up a 47 story building, never mind the demand, no worries on financing since the loans are ultimately backed by the EU central bankers, we’ll use only local labor, our cronies will do an interesting eye-catching design. What, us worry? 47 stories! 200 meters into the air on the Mediterranean coast! Wait a minute…I thought you brought the elevator?


    • T. J. Babson said, on August 11, 2013 at 9:36 am

      Paul Krugman would approve.

  14. T. J. Babson said, on August 11, 2013 at 10:14 am

    I have never believed that taking on a cellphone was more dangerous than talking to a passenger.

    For almost 20 years, it has been a wide-held belief that talking on a cellphone while driving is dangerous and leads to more accidents. However, new research from Carnegie Mellon University and the London School of Economics and Political Science suggests that talking on a cellphone while driving does not increase crash risk. Published in the American Economic Journal: Economic Policy, the study uses data from a major cellphone provider and accident reports to contradict previous findings that connected cellphone use to increased crash risk. Such findings include the influential 1997 paper in the New England Journal of Medicine, which concluded that cellphone use by drivers increased crash risk by a factor of 4.3 — effectively equating its danger to that of illicit levels of alcohol. The findings also raise doubts about the traditional cost-benefit analyses used by states that have, or are, implementing cellphone-driving bans as a way to promote safety.

    “Using a cellphone while driving may be distracting, but it does not lead to higher crash risk in the setting we examined,” said Saurabh Bhargava, assistant professor of social and decision sciences in CMU’s Dietrich College of Humanities and Social Sciences. “While our findings may strike many as counterintuitive, our results are precise enough to statistically call into question the effects typically found in the academic literature. Our study differs from most prior work in that it leverages a naturally occurring experiment in a real-world context.”


    • WTP said, on August 11, 2013 at 10:51 am

      But…but……..SCIENCE!!! You can’t go about refuting SCIENCE with science!!! Never mind that very little of this is true science. Too many variables to account for or control. Unlike, you know, economic studies or climate studies. But hey, don’t be a denier. That would be wrong.

  15. T. J. Babson said, on August 11, 2013 at 12:17 pm


    Republicans, now and in 2016, should remember the colorful but not at all high-minded approach of Obama campaign manager Jim Messina. “My favorite political philosopher is Mike Tyson,” he told Mr. Balz. “Mike Tyson once said everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don’t have a plan anymore.” Obama’s people punched first, and hard.


    • WTP said, on August 11, 2013 at 9:29 pm

      What amuses is the idea that this p***y could/would throw an actual punch, let alone be able to take one:

      Tough talk from “intellectuals” who won’t/couldn’t do any fighting themselves. Pathetic that such people get so far in life. This guy looks and sounds like someone who would regularly get beat up after Sunday school.

      • T. J. Babson said, on August 12, 2013 at 9:18 am

        Would you go so far as to call him a spaghetti-armed metrosexual?

        • WTP said, on August 12, 2013 at 10:56 am

          Hard to tell. Seems a little chubby, but something in the range of “pasty-faced” might be a better fit. And no, these are not ad hominem attacks. Messina raised the prospect of physical violence by quoting the philososphy of Mike Tyson. Can you imagine the screams from the media and the dems if a “Rethuglican” came anywhere close to this kind of statement?

          • T. J. Babson said, on August 12, 2013 at 12:06 pm

            This could explain why so many of these people can’t seem to complete a sentence without swearing.

          • T. J. Babson said, on August 12, 2013 at 3:24 pm

            Where is Lee Atwater when we need him? That guy knew how to land a punch.

  16. T. J. Babson said, on August 12, 2013 at 8:41 am

    How stupid does Obama think we are?

    In a searingly critical essay, a former senior aide to Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore. has called out the Obama administration and the president himself for claiming Friday that he welcomed a public debate on the government’s surveillance programs and the privacy concerns they provoke.

    Jennifer Hoelzer, a former aide to Wyden who recently left his office, harshly questioned Obama in a piece she wrote for TechDirt.com, saying she was flabbergasted to hear him say he had wanted more public scrutiny for the National Security Agency surveillance programs after Wyden had worked for years in vain to try to persuade the administration to declassify parts of the program so that debate could take place.

    “Really, Mr. President? Do you really expect me to believe that you give a damn about open debate and the democratic process?” she asked. “Because it seems to me if your administration was really committed to those things, your administration wouldn’t have blocked every effort to have an open debate on these issues each time the laws that your administration claims authorizes these programs came up for reauthorization, which — correct me if I am wrong — is when the democratic process recommends as the ideal time for these debates.”


    • WTP said, on August 12, 2013 at 10:51 am

      About as stupid as the average Dem leader thinks we are. Given for your consideration, one Willie Brown, once mayor of SF. From today’s WSJ:

      From former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown’s column in the San Francisco Chronicle, July 28:

      News that the Transbay Terminal is something like $300 million over budget should not come as a shock to anyone.

      We always knew the initial estimate was way under the real cost. Just like we never had a real cost for the Central Subway or the Bay Bridge or any other massive construction project. So get off it.

      In the world of civic projects, the first budget is really just a down payment. If people knew the real cost from the start, nothing would ever be approved.

      The idea is to get going. Start digging a hole and make it so big, there’s no alternative to coming up with the money to fill it in.

      • T. J. Babson said, on August 12, 2013 at 12:08 pm

        He gets some points for honesty, at least.

  17. WTP said, on August 12, 2013 at 5:44 pm

    Liberal rag The Nation accidentally proved conservatives right when they were forced to face their own hypocrisy on hiring practices by Walmart.

    Leftist news organizations have helped boost Obama’s efforts to shore up his failures in creating jobs by raising the minimum wage. These efforts defy free market realities that would force employees to hire fewer people if made to artificially pay employees more than the market rate.

    One of their favorite targets has been Walmart, who is the largest employer in America outside of the federal government. But when the economic illiterates at The Nation went after Sam Walton’s company, it fought back! Walmart’s senior director of communications sent this email with the heading, “people who live in glass houses…”

    The Nation—“America’s leading progressive print and online magazine”—recently encouraged its readers to sign an open letter demanding that Walmart increase wages to $12/hour and this article called our company one of the “biggest abusers of low-wage labor.”

    In an ironic twist, ProPublica recently reported that starting this fall, “interns at the Nation Institute will be paid minimum wage for the first time in the history of the 30-year-old program.” As ProPublica noted, The Nation has been paying its full-time interns a weekly stipend of $150 per week—less than the current federal minimum wage rate of $7.25 per hour.

    In fact, assuming the interns working a 40-hour week, the pay would come to $3.75 an hour! So that’s awkward.

    But it gets better!

    Seething that they had been trolled so effectively by one the largest corporations in the world, the editors at The Nation momentarily interrupted their massages, put down their cuban cigars, and rang their golden servant bells to summon their underpaid, malnourished interns to respond angrily to those corporate monsters!

    From the famished interns at The Nation:

    The internship program is an educational, time-limited engagement that provides a unique training ground for participants at the very start of their careers. Additionally, The Nation Institute is a small non-profit trying to raise money to support serious public interest journalism in a challenging fundraising landscape.

    All of those descriptors they applied to internships all apply to entry-level jobs everywhere. It doesn’t matter that Walmart has to survive in a challenging corporate landscape, I suppose.

    The socialist overlords at The Nation are now paying interns minimum wage – still less than the average Walmart pays it’s employees!

    But wait, there’s more!

    In a statement to Propublica, The Nation confirmed one of the basic criticisms that conservatives, and our faithful sidekick, logic, make about raising the minimum wage:

    “We are not yet certain how this will work out long term, but for the fall we are anticipating hiring ten interns rather than twelve.”

    So you raised the wages of your employees, and had to hire fewer people because of it?

    No one saw that coming.


  18. T. J. Babson said, on August 13, 2013 at 11:25 pm

    Math for Democrats.

  19. T. J. Babson said, on August 17, 2013 at 9:24 am

    Our police are turning into quasi-military organizations. Now I know why.

    • WTP said, on August 17, 2013 at 2:32 pm

      Another eh. This guy loses me at the drink of water theatrics, not to mention that he says he speaks for “humanity”, a sure sign of someone who wishes they could rule it. Goodwin’s Law being what it is, I stuck with him for more than his allotted 90 seconds and was still not impressed. The problem is with the laws, not the enforcement of such. But putting that aside, to me the real concern, where I a citizen (I think we can still say “citizen” outside of Oregon) of Concord, NH would be the cost of ownership of such an expensive piece of hardware. It smells more of an attempt at budgetary empire building than anything more sinister. Not that budgetary empire building isn’t sinister enough.

      • WTP said, on August 17, 2013 at 2:35 pm

        Meant to add, re his statement that it is illegal or unconstitutional to use American troops on American soil…Seems some people tried telling that to General Sherman 150 years ago, he wasn’t buying it either.

        • Douglas Moore said, on August 19, 2013 at 1:15 am

          Kind of reminds me of the argument that the US government can’t target US citizens like al-Awlaki. We would have had major problems with Robert E. Lee in that case.

          • T. J. Babson said, on August 19, 2013 at 7:25 am

            Magus, the argument–at least my argument–was that we shouldn’t assassinate a U.S. citizen without some sort of due process, such as a trial or a military tribunal.

            Does it really make sense that the government needs a court order to tap someone’s phone but can kill him without any judicial review?

            • WTP said, on August 19, 2013 at 7:35 am

              Depends. Is he actively engaged in attacking Americans while on foreign soil belonging to a government that will not or can not make reasonable efforts to apprehend him? Is he aware that he can turn himself in to US authorities to face trial in one of the fairest justice systems ever seen on this planet?

            • Douglas Moore said, on August 25, 2013 at 11:42 am

              I do agree with you to some extant. My friend, Tom Kratman, retired Army officer and lawyer, says that our legal system should be employed only so far as it works. Some advocate trying to arrest people like al-Awlaki and bringing them before a court, which is stupid. Also, liberals would make every attempt to slow the system down. Look how long it took us to convict Hasan, a man who admitted he was guilty on all counts and whom 90 witnesses testified against. So yes, if a warrant of some sort could be signed in less than 24 hours, maybe. Of course, one of the reasons for our relative ineffectiveness on modern battlefields is the blurring of lines between law enforcement, due process and war. We could not have beat the Wehrmacht under today’s rules. America will not win another decisive victory in our lifetimes, and the world will be worse off for it.

            • T. J. Babson said, on August 25, 2013 at 4:22 pm

              “Is he aware that he can turn himself in to US authorities to face trial in one of the fairest justice systems ever seen on this planet?”

              Except that charges were never filed against any of these people.

            • WTP said, on August 25, 2013 at 7:40 pm

              OK, point taken. So if charges were filed, would that assuage your concerns? do you actually believe it would make a difference? Don’t have the legal background/knowledge, but in a practical sense, the “perp” knows he’s wanted. Perhaps magus would know the legal details of persuing a wanted man across borders in a land hostile or indifferent to US jurisdiction.

            • T. J. Babson said, on August 25, 2013 at 8:43 pm

              I’m just not comfortable giving one person the power of life or death over U.S. citizens without any sort of due process. We need checks and balances. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

            • WTP said, on August 25, 2013 at 10:18 pm

              While I’m inclined to agree with you, the subjects in question are actively engaged in killing, and conspiring to kill, US citizens. They have effectively surrendered their citizenship except for the aspects that are useful to them to undermine the very principles that would otherwise protect them. These are traitors who should be apprehended if possible, but so long as they are engaged in attempting to kill Americans, they should be stopped from doing so by any means necessary. As coordinators of terrorist activity attempting to kill Americans from a distance, I have not issue killing them from a distance. Were they on a battlefield would you feel better about it? Were they in an area American troops could access, say a specific village in A’stan, and living amongst known enemy agents, protected by enemy weapons, would it be OK for US troops to move into that village and attack and kill them or should those US troops be required to first request a no-knock warrant? I do not see this as a matter of US legal jurisdiction.

              Given the above, and to directly address your point in regard to absolute power, and to my direct question you seem to have dodged if charges were filed, would that assuage your concerns/I>? Or if Obambi went to congress (rofl, I kill myself) to get their consent on a list of terrorist bastards we need to kill, would you be good with that? Surely Even Mike would be OK with it at that point.

          • WTP said, on August 19, 2013 at 7:39 am

            Exactly. Like you said above, McArthur turned the army on WWI vets back in the 20’s. do you know which constitutional law this guy was referring? I don’t recall the McArthur’s actions being challenged legally, and he was operating under civilian control.

      • T. J. Babson said, on August 17, 2013 at 7:21 pm

        The “humanity” business was started by the person introducing the marine…listen carefully as he is introduced…some guy says “there is no name on the card so I guess he is representing humanity…” as the marine is being introduced.

        • WTP said, on August 17, 2013 at 7:28 pm

          Well, given the long drink of water theatrics…whatevs

    • T. J. Babson said, on August 17, 2013 at 3:06 pm

      The Warrior Cop is real, WTP.

      • WTP said, on August 17, 2013 at 7:33 pm

        And so are warrior thugs. For quite some time now.

        The police will do what they are instructed to do by the law. We do not have the kind of police corruption that authoritarian regimes have. The problem is not our cops being out of control, it’s our government and more broadly, our voting public being out of control.

      • Douglas Moore said, on August 19, 2013 at 1:09 am

        I admit that when I was a police officer, a sort of Warrior Ethos was pushed by some training schools, such as the Calibre Press Street Survival course, from which I graduated. Some cops I worked with made fun of this mentality. One could argue that many militarizing aspects of the modern police force have been effective; police casualties are down dramatically from the 70s, partly because of better tactics and the use of body armor, armor which could easily be considered “military grade”. The fact is, SWAT reduces casualties. A failed SWAT operation is one in which someone gets shot, not in which SWAT gets to use their weapons. The point of their training is not, foremost, to kill people, but to be able to arrest high risk criminals and present them to a court for due process. The 60s and 70s changed what being a police officer meant, particularly after the Watts riots. And let’s not forget: In the past there wasn’t much worry about “militarized cops”. Why? Because the government would just call in the real military when things got rough. Then you had a “militarized military”, National Guard. Kent State, the Watts riots, and of course there was the Bonus Army incident, where Patton and McArthur led the charge into military veterans in 1932, Washington DC. Imagine that today!

        I also admit to seeing the effects of the Warrior Ethos in how cops interact with the average person. It took my about 5 years to be able to move easily between a personality that uses physical violence when needed and that of a civil servant whom realizes that his Duty is to serve society, not to “meet out justice”, but to help where he can and bring suspects before courts of law. Being courteous to everyday people, while being ready to quickly draw a .40 cal Beretta and drill a hole in someone’s sinus cavity are not mentalities that easily coexist in a human mind. It can be done, but it requires training, experience, and wisdom. Studies show that cops killed in the line of duty were usually the “nice guy types”.

        Cops should have a sense of civic duty. They are powerful in a sense, but there’s a lot of responsibility that goes with it. They should remember that.

    • T. J. Babson said, on August 17, 2013 at 3:19 pm

      Do you really need a grenade launcher to deal with “Occupy New Hampshire”?

      Residents of Concord, New Hampshire, accomplished a rare feat earlier this week when they prevented their police chief, if only temporarily, from buying a BearCat.

      What’s a BearCat, you say? Lenco Armored Vehicles says its best selling truck can “be used as a S.W.A.T. or Military Counter Attack and Rescue Vehicle and is often used in hostile Urban Environments or as a Patrol/Reaction Vehicle on a Military Base.” It holds up to 10 people, is cheap to maintain, and can be equipped with the “Mechanical Rotating Turret with Cupola (Tub) and Weapon Ready Mounting System, suitable for the M60, 240B and Mark 19 weapons system.”

      Protestors held signs that read, “More Mayberry less Fallujah” and “Thanks but no tanks.”

      In plain English, the BearCat can drive through a hail of bullets, carry a team of soldiers, and be topped — like an ice cream sundae from hell — with either a machine gun or a grenade launcher. It is basically the perfect vehicle for an urban war zone. Concord, New Hampshire, with its population of around 42,600 and a violent crime rate of 227 per 100,000 people, is of course not an urban war zone.

      Then again, no town in the United States should theoretically require such weapons, yet cities of every size have them thanks to the Pentagon’s congressionally approved “1033 Program.” Begun in 1994, the program allows the Department of Defense to donate weapons, vehicles, and equipment to local police departments, regardless of whether they need them (or know how to appropriately use them).

      Last year, Concord Police Chief John Duval decided he wanted what other cities have. In Concord’s grant application to the Department of Homeland Security, obtained by the New Hampshire Civil Liberties Union, Duval and the city practically had to make up a threat, claiming that while New Hampshire has “not been victimized from a mass casualty event from an international terrorism strike however on the domestic front, the threat is real and here. Groups such as the Sovereign Citizens, Free Staters and Occupy New Hampshire are active and present daily challenges.” After the grant application was unearthed by the NHCLU, Duval “said he does not see the groups as domestic terrorists and admitted that the section of the application was poorly worded.”


  20. T. J. Babson said, on August 17, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    The police chief basically called Free Staters terrorists. I think the the marine is right: the government has become afraid of the people.

    I’m saddened that you can’t see the problem here, WTP.

    Copied below is the speech Free State Project president, Carla Gericke, gave before a packed room at the Concord City Council meeting on August 12. 2013. More than 200 individuals showed up to testify against Concord receiving a BEARCAT attack vehicle. Due to the large number of people who wanted to speak, speeches were limited to one minute, but several people yielded their time to allow Carla to finish her testimony, which ended up running about 6 minutes to the Chief of Police, John Duval’s thirty. She added some off-the-cuff comments in rebuttal to Duval’s testimony that do not appear in the script below. The Council, in a 8-4 vote, decided to table the matter until September. Stay tuned for more details.


    We, the people, are not the enemy. Free Staters–productive people moving to New Hampshire because of the shared values with our neighbors of small government and more personal responsibility–are not terrorists. We do not pose “daily challenges” to the City of Concord–in fact, I volunteer for Concord Reads at the Concord public library!

    We are here today in great numbers to raise our voices to protest the manufactured, false, misleading, fraudulent AND SECRET claims made by Thomas Aspell, the city manager, and John Duval, the chief of police in the federal grant application for Concord’s Ballistic Engineered Armored Response Counter Attack vehicle.

    As president of the Free State Project, I have publicly called for a retraction and amendment of the Department of Homeland Security grant. I also asked for a list of “daily challenges” presented by Free Staters. Lastly, I requested a public letter of apology for the defamation of 14,600+ Free State Project participants.

    None of these requests have been met, although Chief Duval has since backpedaled in public statements, saying we do not present a “domestic terrorist threat.” Guess there’s nothing like getting caught in a lie, right?

    I gave the City ample opportunity to do the right thing. They chose to do nothing. Which means I will file a complaint–in addition to those that have already been filed by individual participants–with the DHS’s Office of the Inspector General for fraud and political profiling, and hereby publicly call for the firing of the people involved. When ordinary people make misleading statements on government forms, there are severe consequences, including the possibility of imprisonment. State officials should be held to an even higher standard.

    Equally alarming is the fact that the chief of police of the state’s capital admitted on NHPR that he needs an attack vehicle to quell free speech at the State House.

    You don’t have to agree with our pro-freedom, pro-peace, pro-personal responsibility and limited government ideas to see the irony of what is unfolding here today. The role of the government, YOU, is to protect the people you allegedly serve: US. That the government–YOU–want to bring an attack vehicle to the debate is not only a gross abuse of power, it is unconstitutional, and immoral.

    You have a binding duty to be open, accessible, accountable and responsive to the people you “serve.” You have been none of these things.

    You have a choice right now. YOU, as an INDIVIDUAL, can do the right thing for the greater community of New Hampshire, and vote to NOT accept this attack vehicle into one of the safest and most peaceful communities in the country. I hope you will serve us well.


    • WTP said, on August 17, 2013 at 3:59 pm

      TJ, it’s not that I don’t see the problem. We’re talking past each other. I’m seeing a design issue, you’re concerned with an implementation issue. The state ultimately has power, whether it is implemented via the police or via the national guard, or via federal forces, ultimately the army. What concerns me is what they do with that power. What more greatly concerns me is as to why they should have that much power in the first place. Why does Concord, NH have sufficient funds to be spending it on something the national guard is already equipped to do? As you say, if Occupy NH is that much of a problem, we already have means of dealing with it. I’m just more concerned with the forces of Occupy Education, Occupy The Language, and Occupy The MSM which has been going on for at least the last 30 years. That is what is creating the problem of big government getting out of control. Some ex-Marine officer who likes to hear himself talk (would be interested to hear from the NCO’s in his former command) is not doing that cause much good. Do you have any comment on the video I posted re Mike’s welfare rants?

      • T. J. Babson said, on August 17, 2013 at 7:18 pm

        “Do you have any comment on the video I posted re Mike’s welfare rants?”

        Do you mean video on the FIRE guy?

        • WTP said, on August 17, 2013 at 7:26 pm

          Yeah…or the Parrot sketch…but mostly, the FIRE guy.

          • T. J. Babson said, on August 18, 2013 at 10:01 am

            It was a great video and FIRE is one of my favorite organizations, but I missed the connection to minimum wage.

          • T. J. Babson said, on August 18, 2013 at 10:03 am

            Mike would probably support the FIRE guy, too. Mike is pretty tolerant of all kinds of speech on his blog.

            • Michael LaBossiere said, on August 18, 2013 at 3:47 pm

              People are free to write what they will. I mostyly only delete spam and content free vulgarity.

            • WTP said, on August 18, 2013 at 10:20 pm

              As I said, the video went beyond the topic of that thread. Context was economics, more broadly speaking, than minimum wages. In order to understand things as complex as economics, not that one can actually understand it anymore than one can understand the aggregate of human psychology, one must be able to put one’s self in the mindset of opposing points of view. Points of view one might even find abhorrent, depending on one’s delicacy. Mike’s arguments on these topics are full of straw men, half-truths, and one-eyed perspectives. Contrasting ideas are presented to him by myself, you, magus, whomever, he shows no interest in engaging on the actual facts of the issues. Then he fades away from the topic, comes back to it months later, as if previous discussions never happened. This is not the intellectual approach of the professor the FIRE guy said taught him, nor is it in the traditions of a university education before that time referenced. All this would be his own business/problem were he not a professor at an institution funded by taxpayers, the student loans backed by taxpayers. These students are getting an inferior education and will be shocked when they encounter the real world, provided they are able to recognize what they are banging their heads against. As Mike says below, he’s an enabler. I’m sure he meant it sarcastically. I’m not sure if this is a sadder reflection on him or our society.

        • Michael LaBossiere said, on August 18, 2013 at 3:39 pm

          I’m not ranting. I’m an enabler. 🙂

          • WTP said, on August 18, 2013 at 10:07 pm

            OK, I’ll agree again. You’re an enabler, thus not an educator.

    • WTP said, on August 17, 2013 at 4:10 pm

      And again, I do not think that a city like Concord, NH needs a Bearcat. Originally I took this to be a Concord, NH issue, but from what you’ve posted I see that the money for these coming from the federal budget. THIS is what I’m concerned about. Now we’re talking about MY taxpayer dollars. This is nothing but fascism in the sense of government and business getting together to create a phony “market” for their product. THIS is the real problem, in the federal grant application for Concord’s Ballistic Engineered Armored Response Counter Attack vehicle.

      • T. J. Babson said, on August 18, 2013 at 10:00 am

        So, WTP, why do you think the Feds are buying BearCats and other military hardware and putting this stuff into small towns like Concord, NH?

        • Michael LaBossiere said, on August 18, 2013 at 3:46 pm

          They need to spend that homeland security money on something.

          • WTP said, on August 18, 2013 at 10:00 pm

            And I agree with Mike. I suspect this has something to do with lobbyists and payoffs, perhaps “stimulus” money. If the Feds want to crush people, they will crush people. The problem lies with the desire to do the crushing. Who do we elect to office? What do we teach our youth? What does the media perpetuate? Again with the Goodwins’ Law, but Hitler won elections before he did his greatest damage.

  21. T. J. Babson said, on August 17, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    Here is the “terrorist” speaking:

  22. T. J. Babson said, on August 17, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    More on LavaBit. Apparently the government has started telling people that it is illegal to shut down their businesses.

    The saga of Lavabit founder Ladar Levison is getting even more ridiculous, as he explains that the government has threatened him with criminal charges for his decision to shut down the business, rather than agree to some mysterious court order. The feds are apparently arguing that the act of shutting down the business, itself, was a violation of the order:

    … a source familiar with the matter told NBC News that James Trump, a senior litigation counsel in the U.S. attorney’s office in Alexandria, Va., sent an email to Levison’s lawyer last Thursday – the day Lavabit was shuttered — stating that Levison may have “violated the court order,” a statement that was interpreted as a possible threat to charge Levison with contempt of court.

    That same article suggests that the decision to shut down Lavabit was over something much bigger than just looking at one individual’s information — since it appears that Lavabit has cooperated in the past on such cases. Instead, the suggestion now is that the government was seeking a tap on all accounts:

    Levison stressed that he has complied with “upwards of two dozen court orders” for information in the past that were targeted at “specific users” and that “I never had a problem with that.” But without disclosing details, he suggested that the order he received more recently was markedly different, requiring him to cooperate in broadly based surveillance that would scoop up information about all the users of his service. He likened the demands to a requirement to install a tap on his telephone.

    It sounds like the feds were asking for a full on backdoor on the system, not unlike some previous reports of ISPs who have received surprise visits from the NSA.


    • Michael LaBossiere said, on August 18, 2013 at 3:42 pm

      This doesn’t seem to be a general ruling that people cannot shut down businesses. Rather, this seems to be specific to Lava.bit. This is not to say that there is not a worthwhile concern here in regards to what the state is doing.

      • WTP said, on August 18, 2013 at 10:24 pm

        Gee, Mike, you’re good at finding slavery where it doesn’t exist. Being told how to run your business, having large amount of your profits seized, and told you can’t shut it down. What does that smell like?

  23. Douglas Moore said, on August 18, 2013 at 6:51 am

    I do think there’s something to the idea that the government has become afraid of the US people. That said, the US people are not that special anymore. So what you have is the same thing as in most totalitarian regimes: A people out of control, whom can only be managed by an autocratic government. Just like a trained, well-behaved dog is a happier dog. You can take that dog into the public areas without fear of him doing something he shouldn’t. This administration immediately showed during the first term that it was more afraid of US citizens than al-Qaeda. It said so openly in a paper issued by Homeland Defense, which stated homegrown militias presented the biggest terror threat to the US. This administration jumps at the chance to control law abiding citizens’ guns. The people that make up this administration were raised and schooled to believe that white, Christian males are a threat to the well-being of humanity.

    • Douglas Moore said, on August 18, 2013 at 6:56 am

      Crime rates are lower in the US than in Britain for one reason: We incarcerate more people than any other nation. All these articles we now read about the “mystery” of dropping crime rates. The criminals are in jail. No mystery. In Britain, they’re mostly free to wander the streets even after convictions for heinous crimes. Our society is fracturing into the elite and the slum-dogs. The elite have enabled the slum-dogs, by reminding them how disadvantaged they are, instead of telling them how to be successful. Guess what: Showing up on time, doing well in school, and being honest are always better in the long run, no matter what class you are from.

      • WTP said, on August 18, 2013 at 8:27 am

        B-b-but Robber Barons! B-b-but CEOs! Ordinary The People Occupy Trayvon have no chance!

        And where are they supposed to learn that showing up on time, doing well in school, and beinghonest will get you places in life? Where are they disinformed in this regard?

    • T. J. Babson said, on August 18, 2013 at 9:58 am

      “This administration immediately showed during the first term that it was more afraid of US citizens than al-Qaeda. It said so openly in a paper issued by Homeland Defense, which stated homegrown militias presented the biggest terror threat to the US.”

      Also in the delusional ravings by Dems about the Tea Party. The Tea Party is mostly made up of middle class housewives–much like Carla Gericke above–what on earth are they afraid of from people like that?

    • Douglas Moore said, on August 19, 2013 at 12:49 am

      By the way, I’m not justifying autocracy in America, only saying that historically, it’s the natural progression when people can’t police their own behavior. I’m for separating the people whom can behave from those whom can’t as much as possible. Those whom behave should be allowed to have more freedom, such as with guns, alcohol, and drugs. Those whom cannot behave should be separated from those ordinary freedoms and sometimes from law abiding people. If we want a society that is free to say, use drugs that are now illegal, I think there should be laws that remove the right to possess drugs if other crimes are committed while under the effects of drugs. Same goes for alcohol. And guns. Big Boy rules until you prove you’re not a Big Boy. In this way, there would be a form of societal peer pressure, in addition to the utilitarian value of lack of access to criminals. People who can regulate their own behavior should be rewarded with more freedom, not lumped in with criminals.

  24. Douglas Moore said, on August 18, 2013 at 6:57 am

    “Opportunity looks like hard work”. Huh. Imagine that.


  25. T. J. Babson said, on August 18, 2013 at 9:20 am

    Holding residents inside at gunpoint…because the grass was too long…

    A small organic farm in Arlington, Texas, was the target of a massive police action last week that included aerial surveillance, a SWAT raid and a 10-hour search.

    Members of the local police raiding party had a search warrant for marijuana plants, which they failed to find at the Garden of Eden farm. But farm owners and residents who live on the property told a Dallas-Ft. Worth NBC station that the real reason for the law enforcement exercise appears to have been code enforcement. The police seized “17 blackberry bushes, 15 okra plants, 14 tomatillo plants … native grasses and sunflowers,” after holding residents inside at gunpoint for at least a half-hour, property owner Shellie Smith said in a statement. The raid lasted about 10 hours, she said.

    Local authorities had cited the Garden of Eden in recent weeks for code violations, including “grass that was too tall, bushes growing too close to the street, a couch and piano in the yard, chopped wood that was not properly stacked, a piece of siding that was missing from the side of the house, and generally unclean premises,” Smith’s statement said. She said the police didn’t produce a warrant until two hours after the raid began, and officers shielded their name tags so they couldn’t be identified. According to ABC affiliate WFAA, resident Quinn Eaker was the only person arrested — for outstanding traffic violations.


  26. T. J. Babson said, on August 18, 2013 at 10:45 am

    A SWAT raid for long grass, but a shootout on the street is not a problem.

    • WTP said, on August 18, 2013 at 10:40 pm

      Yeah, I doubt this would be going on in that Texas town where the hippie raid happened. You’re comparing apples and oranges here. Not a valid argument. Actually, I think this video would more justify armored vehicles for the police than not. Criminal scum.

    • WTP said, on August 25, 2013 at 9:29 am

      Here’s an “understanding” of this culture:

      …too many of the underclass enjoy the culture of poverty. They would feel horribly out of place in a tony subdivision where they would have to work to make a house and car payment, instead of drinking beer all day on the stoop – they don’t even have stoops in the suburbs. They would have to cut their lawns and keep the trash and noise to a minimum. What fun is that? In the inner-city you can do whatever the hell you want. You can even shoot somebody, and chances are no one will rat you out, because that is the code of the inner-city streets, and people there hate the cops more than they hate the drug dealers.


      You might want to read the whole article. Comment, TJ?

      • T. J. Babson said, on August 25, 2013 at 10:19 am

        Just so. Actually, I’ve come to realize that a lot of people lack the ability to distinguish who their real friends are.

        Even Mike, with his reflexive devotion to the Democrats. I wonder if he realizes that the end result of Obama’s proposals the other day will be to crush the humanities.

        • WTP said, on August 25, 2013 at 10:59 am

          Heh…amuses me how often you start a sentence with “Even Mike”.

          So what do you suppose keeps poor people poor? A low minimum wage or low minimum standards of behavior? Low expectations?

          • Douglas Moore said, on August 25, 2013 at 11:47 am

            Low expectations is probably the biggest reason our civilization is going south. Which is why I’m running weekly program with my 6 year old daughter. In the program she’ll give history lessons, just to show people what will happen if they actually teach their kids things.

  27. WTP said, on August 22, 2013 at 5:03 pm

    Oh lordy, lordy, lordy…what pronoun(s) will Mike use? He’s gonna be up all night with this dilemma

    Manning also requested that the public refer to her by her chosen name, Chelsea, and adopt feminine pronouns to describe her.

    But the media isn’t listening.

    With a few notable exceptions — including MSNBC, Rolling Stone and the Guardian — reports from the mainstream press willfully misgendered Manning while reporting this news. (Full disclosure: In Salon’s earliest report, I introduced the story by referring to Chelsea as Bradley Manning, believing it would be clarifying and help to set context. I have since edited the piece, referring to Chelsea by her chosen name while adding a parenthetical about her former name, to more accurately and respectfully reflect the content of the story and the truth of Manning’s identity.)


  28. T. J. Babson said, on August 25, 2013 at 10:05 am

    Q: which party took a system which worked for 85% of the population and ruined it for everyone in an attempt to improve it for a few?

    Delta Air Lines says Obamacare and rising medical costs will explode its healthcare expenses by $100 million.

    Delta executives delivered the startling statistic to Obama Administration officials in a private memorandum obtained by RedState.com. Fox News confirmed the letter’s authenticity.

    “The cost of providing health care to our employees will increase by nearly $100,000,000 next year,” the Delta memo said.

    On Friday, Delta issued a statement reconfirming the rise in costs.

    “Like many large companies, Delta faces significantly increased healthcare costs in 2014 and beyond. Delta will absorb the vast majority of those increased costs so that we can continue providing a high value, high quality health plan.”

    Delta is not alone in feeling the Obamacare crunch; several companies are slashing spousal healthcare plans and cutting full-time workers to part-time status to avoid costly Obamacare penalties. United Parcel Services (UPS) has announced plans to drop 15,000 workers’ spouses due to Obamacare, and a recent survey of 420 companies found that 40% of businesses are gearing up to change their insurance plans in 2014 when Obamcacare begins.

    Companies are not the only ones cutting back; state governments and universities are as well.


  29. WTP said, on August 25, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    Here’s a big chunk of the problem. Anything sound familiar in regard to things I’ve said here before?

    Another school year beckons, which means it’s time for President Obama to go on another college retreat. “He loves college tours,” says Ohio University’s Richard Vedder, who directs the Center for College Affordability and Productivity. “Colleges are an escape from reality. Believe me, I’ve lived in one for half a century. It’s like living in Disneyland. They’re these little isolated enclaves of nonreality.”

    Mr. Vedder, age 72, has taught college economics since 1965 and published papers on the likes of Scandinavian migration, racial disparities in unemployment and tax reform. Over the last decade he’s made himself America’s foremost expert on the economics of higher education, which he distilled in his 2004 book “Going Broke by Degree: Why College Costs Too Much.” His analysis isn’t the same as President Obama’s.


  30. T. J. Babson said, on August 26, 2013 at 4:05 am

    APB Poll:

    Will Obama bomb Syria without going to the U.N., or will he go to the U.N., lose, and then bomb?

    • Douglas Moore said, on August 26, 2013 at 4:48 am

      I don’t think he’ll go to the UN. He already knows Russia’s opinion. Our whole government’s gone nuts. I don’t think I can find a single politician who’s not borderline crazy.

    • T. J. Babson said, on August 26, 2013 at 6:10 am

      What a snake pit. Do we really need to step in it?

      BEIRUT — A Syrian rebel group’s April pledge of allegiance to al-Qaeda’s replacement for Osama bin Laden suggests that the terrorist group’s influence is not waning and that it may take a greater role in the Western-backed fight to topple Syrian President Bashar Assad.

      The pledge of allegiance by Syrian Jabhat al Nusra Front chief Abou Mohamad al-Joulani to al-Qaeda leader Sheik Ayman al-Zawahri was coupled with an announcement by the al-Qaeda affiliate in Iraq, the Islamic State of Iraq, that it would work with al Nusra as well.

      Lebanese Sheik Omar Bakri, a Salafist who says states must be governed by Muslim religious law, says al-Qaeda has assisted al Nusra for some time.

      “They provided them early on with technical, military and financial support , especially when it came to setting up networks of foreign jihadis who were brought into Syria,” Bakri says. “There will certainly be greater coordination between the two groups.”

      The United States, which supports the overthrow of Assad, designated al Nusra a terrorist entity in December. The Obama administration has said it wants to support only those insurgent groups that are not terrorist organizations.


      • Douglas Moore said, on August 26, 2013 at 7:31 am

        A friend of mine told me he thought the government was helping the rebels in order to keep two of our enemies killing each other for as long as possible. I told him he was giving our government way too much credit.

    • WTP said, on August 26, 2013 at 8:55 am

      Can’t say what he’ll do but whatever he decides the media will praise it. If I had to guess, I’d say he goes to the UN, loses, then dithers hoping that the matter will somehow “sort itself out”. In the mean time, Assad will have plenty of time to move whatever assets that he can move to the safest locations possible. The media will provide him cover until enough pressure builds that he has to do something. At which point, he orders the action. It’s the “leading from behind” strategy.

      But that’s just SWAG.

    • WTP said, on August 26, 2013 at 4:56 pm

      Will Obama bomb Syria without going to the U.N., or will he go to the U.N., lose, and then bomb?

      BTW, I notice we just jumped right over Obama bothering to go to congress to get approval to go to war. ROFLMFAO, again I kill myself.

  31. Douglas Moore said, on August 26, 2013 at 9:23 am

    I’d support removing Assad if the rebels actually held American values, which they do not. Or if Assad actually presented a clear and present danger to the US, which he does not. If the same thing were happening in Russia or China, would we take military action? No. We’re thinking of doing this just because we can. What really irritates me is the hypocrisy of the president, considering his rhetoric on the Iraq war, which presented much more possibility that American interests were involved. Yet no outraged liberals, no blood for oil buffoons.

    • WTP said, on August 26, 2013 at 10:12 am

      I’d like to think, as your friend suggested above, that we’re doing everything we can to keep both forces engaged in killing as many of each other as possible. When your enemy is killing your enemy, this is a good thing. Ben Franklin’s statement that there never was a good war or a bad peace was made 200 years before Iran/Iraq, my vote for Best War Ever except for maybe when Georgia plays Tennessee or Ohio State plays Michigan. Though those latter two are lacking in enthusiasm, relatively speaking. So long as Sunnis and Shiites want to kill each other, we should stay out of it except to maybe keep it going so long as civilians casualties are minimized. Not that civilians don’t, to some extent, bear some responsibility for supporting evil. Watching children suffer is terribly painful, but such is the case in far too many places, the media just picks and chooses which to use as a moral brickbat. Don’t know enough about Alawites but their being a branch of Shiite is probably all that is needed. Assad’s supposed secularism is rather thin when you look at who he aligns with.

      But I do question the concerns about AQ taking over. WMD’s aside, and I think the Israeli’s can handle that with minimal objection if AQ does win out, I believe it would be quite informative and interesting to see AQ attempt to actually run a country. Look how quickly the Muslim Brotherhood, whom Mike thought was somewhat “reasonable”, failed at running things. Allowing AQ higher visibility and the responsiblity to actually run a country that was somewhat modern (unlike A’stan, which granted was a Taliban production) will be much more informative to the general Islamic population in the more modernized regions. Most of the more modern Islamic countries view A’stan as the equivalent of banjo pickers. Imagine the fear of having them running a more visible state. The flood of refugees running into Turkey will put pressure on another Islamic-leaning ME country to deal with problems created by principles similar to their own. Plus, Syria is much more out in the open, geographically, than A’stan or even Iraq. The Israeli’s have had decent success keeping Syria fenced in. And what with AQ being Sunni it would put a crimp in Iran’s influence via Hezbolla, etc. whom they supply via Syria, AIUI. Granted, there’s a lot of risk in what I’ve just said, but it would mix things up a bit and it’s not like trading an Assad for AQ is much of a delta.

      • Douglas Moore said, on August 26, 2013 at 4:23 pm

        I agree that AQ can’t run a state. I don’t worry about them winning, but I don’t think we should encourage it. Insurgencies rarely win against indigenous governments. I do worry about the proliferation of Syrian state arms, however. The other issue, is that states tend to be rational, even if they are evil. In other words, self-interest still serves to enliven self-interest, and living is in a normal person’s self interest. So I prefer the Syrian government to win in the long run…say, about 10 more years. Yet another issue would be further population shifts, an under-appreciated problem in wars. And then there is the monetary cost of American involvement in the war. The war in Syria has carried on for several years and shows no sign of ending. The most economical way of furthering American interests there is to do nothing.

        • WTP said, on August 26, 2013 at 5:14 pm

          The proliferation question is a concern. However if they use the WMDs up against themselves/AQ, it’s mostly their own problem. I think this latest focus on Syria started before the WMD’s, though Obambi’s thick red line certainly helped. I believe the fear was that Assad was starting to get the upper hand. Not that I’m conspiracy minded, and I think this is very unlikely, but I would not put it past some of the rebels to have gassed other rebel factions. Part of my suspicion stems from the fact that they hate each other and have been fighting each other to some extent. Why not kill your other enemy with WMD’s, blame Assad, and thus pull us/EU into the fight against Assad. If they were desperate enough and possibly on the ropes, it wouldn’t surprise me too much. Don’t know if you saw the videos a few weeks back of the rebels using trebuches and slingshots to launch mortars and other various projectiles.

          As for the cost to us, interesting that the EU begs to be taken seriously in the economic sphere vs the US, but they can’t address any problems with tiny little countries like Serbia, Libya, or Syria by themselves. If they’re so much for this operation, let them pony up the moolah. Where’s the pressure on Obambi to spread the costs? And keep in mind, while the cost to us/the West is nothing to dismiss lightly, the cost to them, and by extension Russia, is not quite so easily absorbed.

  32. Douglas Moore said, on August 26, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    Democrats at work: Encouraging fascism since 1960. I’m thinking of joining the party myself.

    • Douglas Moore said, on August 26, 2013 at 5:14 pm

      Wilkinson has a Department of Public Instruction. Orwell could not have done better. Holy crap where’d we go wrong….

    • WTP said, on August 26, 2013 at 6:28 pm

      Exactly. THIS is the problem. The one-sided attacks on American values, “educating” our youth, done in the name of making things “fair”. And if they have to lie to get their points across, if their idea of fairness is reverse racism, well they can just redefine THEIR racism and any other lies via sophistry. And they do it all with our tax dollars. When these children grow up, how many of them will question the lies they were taught? Is it any wonder that our whole government’s gone nuts. It’s our society that has gone nuts via an education system that is increasingly anit-thinking, anti-western values, and ultimately anti-American.

      • Douglas Moore said, on August 26, 2013 at 6:43 pm

        And as I stated, how is this not encouraging neo-Nazi type organizations? They are expanding quite rapidly in Europe. Even average white people, when they see this type of government injustice, may be drawn to organizations that don’t bend to this reality bending nonsense.

  33. T. J. Babson said, on August 26, 2013 at 10:17 pm

    APB Poll question number two:

    On which day will the bombs fall?

    I think August 30.

    • wtp said, on August 26, 2013 at 10:47 pm

      Couldn’t say when exactly, but if past performance is any indication it’ll happen on a Friday.

      • T. J. Babson said, on August 27, 2013 at 6:24 am

        Exactly. You have learned well, Grasshopper.

    • T. J. Babson said, on August 27, 2013 at 4:46 pm

      Friday, August 30 is looking good.

      The U.S. could hit Syria with three days of missile strikes, perhaps beginning Thursday, in an attack meant more to send a message to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad than to topple him or cripple his military, senior U.S. officials told NBC News on Tuesday.


        • Douglas Moore said, on August 28, 2013 at 6:42 am

          No strategy, no end-state. Just lob some missiles and bombs in the general direction of Syria and see what happens. It’s the American way of war. Enjoy The Decline.

        • WTP said, on August 28, 2013 at 7:42 am

          Yeah, now that I think about it, Obambi going to the UN would require work and he’d have to face his inner Bush. The lazy way out is to just lob some bombs and do as little follow up as necessary.

        • T. J. Babson said, on August 28, 2013 at 8:30 am

          The *only* reason we are doing this is so that Obama can retain a shred of credibility to deal with Iran. No one will be fooled.

          Notice the MSM underplayed the fact that the attack took place exactly one year (to the day) after after O drew his red line.

          • WTP said, on August 28, 2013 at 9:26 am

            And where are all the “we can’t be the world’s police force” people? Where are those who protested even the Serbian bombing campaign? I recall being at an outdoor Shakespeare festival back in the 90’s on the lead up to the Serbian action and being confronted by anti-war protesters. They were everywhere.

          • T. J. Babson said, on August 29, 2013 at 10:57 pm

            Tomorrow is the day I thought the bombs would fall. Things have not gone O’s way, however, so maybe not.

            We will know soon enough.

  34. Douglas Moore said, on August 27, 2013 at 6:56 am

    Dems at work. This is way too easy, Mike. I wonder which party Tyrone Winfrey voted for?

    Ok, I’m packing in for the long, hard winter. Guns: check. Religion: check. Having been deployed to Afghanistan for 20 of my last 36 months, and having been involved in counterinsurgency analysis for those months, I know that social and demographic trends are virtually irreversible barring cataclysm. Which is why COIN doesn’t work: It’s an attempt to reverse deep social trends via external military intervention. In reality, the only effective thing the military can do is keep killing people whom present a threat. In the case of the over half of America under the thrall of the Democratic message (give me stuff and ensure I don’t have to work) this is not going to end. The Republicans cannot win a national election with their historic message (work hard, self-responsibility). They have already changed their massage on amnesty for illegals, in hopes of getting minority votes, but it won’t work, unless they too become the Party of Free Stuff. This is an irreversible trend, at least for the next few decades. The gap between the haves and the have-nots will continue to widen, not because of injustice, so much as because the haves are simply the ones doing things correctly for the most part. Detroit is essentially a microcosm for the coming America. I suggest you break out your survival manuals, clean your rifles, and ensure your knives are sharp. I’ll read my Bible everyday too, not only to glean its wisdom, but to maintain the Left’s cliche of my type. However, as Lincoln states ” I hope to have God on my side, but I must have Kentucky.” So my rifle will be clean and my knife sharp. I’m sure I’ll end up on one of Obama’s watch lists, you know, the ones that proclaim “my types” to be more dangerous to America than al-Qaeda. Welcome to Amerika, Land of the Free Stuff.

  35. Douglas Moore said, on August 28, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    Dems at work? Watching the speeches on Martin Luther King today on the news. They were showing a statue of MLK and it immediately brought to mind a design of a statue of Marx and Engels. Am I right?

    Here’s MLK: http://cinemaelectronica.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/mlk-memorial-closeup.jpg

  36. Douglas Moore said, on August 28, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    Here’s Marx:

    • WTP said, on August 28, 2013 at 6:00 pm

      Actually, when I first saw it a couple months ago I was thinking Mao. I the artist/sculptor was from the PRoC IIRC.

  37. T. J. Babson said, on August 28, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    Uncanny resemblance. I’m sure the artist knew exactly what he or she was doing.

  38. T. J. Babson said, on August 29, 2013 at 9:15 pm

    Biden. Mike, any comments?

    • Douglas Moore said, on August 30, 2013 at 4:03 am

      And here he reiterates his point. Joe Biden beats Andrew Johnson as the all-time worst vice president. I would be very afraid that he is first in line to take over the White House in the event of an emergency, but then I think of who’s already at the reigns. And then… I realize we’re done already and it’s too late. Enjoy the Decline.

    • Michael LaBossiere said, on August 30, 2013 at 8:29 am

      Joe says things. No one really knows why. Not even Joe.

  39. Douglas Moore said, on August 30, 2013 at 4:25 am

  40. Douglas Moore said, on August 30, 2013 at 5:17 am


    The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent events in Syria and have therefore raised their security level from “Miffed” to “Peeved.” Soon, though, security levels may be raised yet again to “Irritated” or even “A Bit Cross.” The English have not been “A Bit Cross” since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies nearly ran out. Terrorists have been re-categorized from “Tiresome” to “A Bloody Nuisance.” The last time the British issued a “Bloody Nuisance” warning level was in 1588, when threatened by the Spanish Armada.

    The Scots have raised their threat level from “Pissed Off” to “Let’s get the Bastards.” They don’t have any other levels. This is the reason they have been used on the front line of the British army for the last 300 years.

    The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from “Run” to “Hide.” The only two higher levels in France are “Collaborate” and “Surrender.” The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France ‘s white flag factory, effectively paralyzing the country’s military capability.

    Italy has increased the alert level from “Shout Loudly and Excitedly” to “Elaborate Military Posturing.” Two more levels remain: “Ineffective Combat Operations” and “Change Sides.”

    The Germans have increased their alert state from “Disdainful Arrogance” to “Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs.” They also have two higher levels: “Invade a Neighbour” and “Lose.”

    Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual; the only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels ..

    The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy. These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.

    Australia, meanwhile, has raised its security level from “No worries” to “She’ll be right, Mate.” Two more escalation levels remain: “Crikey! I think we’ll need to cancel the barbie this weekend!” and “The barbie is cancelled.” So far no situation has ever warranted use of the last final escalation level.

    John Cleese ,
    British writer, actor and tall person

    And as a final thought – Greece is collapsing, the Iranians are getting aggressive, and Rome is in disarray. Welcome back to 430 BC.

    Life is too short…

  41. Douglas Moore said, on August 30, 2013 at 10:20 am

    Democrats building a Brave New World:

    “CPS Mandates Sexual, Health Education For Kindergarten…Whether that means there’s two moms at home, everyone’s home life is different, and we introduce the fact that we all have a diverse background, “

    Gotta get the kids early when they’re most open to these ideas. There is a part of the book, Brave New World, in which the schools teach young children about sexuality. I’ll have to find it.


  42. WTP said, on September 4, 2013 at 7:02 am

    Mike whines about mean old Republicans who don’t like funding non-STEM education. Here’s a Democrat at work on the taxpayer’s dime. In a “creative writing” class, no less.

    “You can frown if you want,” said Penn, gesticulating towards the student sitting near the front. “You look like you are frowning. Are you frowning?”

    Penn, who was a Distinguished Faculty Award recipient at MSU in 2003, and a two time winner of the prestigious Stephen Crane Prize for Fiction, then went on to accuse Republicans of crafting a systematic plan for “getting black people not to vote.”

    “This country still is full of closet racists,” he said. “What do you think is going on in South Carolina and North Carolina. Voter suppression. Its about getting black people not to vote. Why? Because black people tend to vote Democratic.”

    “Why would would Republicans want to do it?” he asked. “Because Republicans are not a majority in this country anymore. They are a bunch of dead white people. Or dying white people.”

    Watch the video at the link.

  43. WTP said, on September 4, 2013 at 7:07 am

  44. WTP said, on September 4, 2013 at 7:17 am

    Of course there’s more. Like the use of air quotes when she uses the word “empower”.

    • magus71 said, on September 9, 2013 at 6:14 am

      The guy next to the woman talking about promoting Marxism looked uncomfortable. Marxism is more alive and well than people realize, especially in the education fields.

  45. WTP said, on September 8, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    Teachers object to being asked to dress appropriately for teaching. Like making them wear underwear. Oh, the horror, the McCarthyism, the oppression. One can hardly breathe. Then again, we are talking ’bout Arkysaws.


  46. magus71 said, on September 9, 2013 at 6:10 am

    American collapse of foreign influence brings to memory the Soviet Union and French 4th Republic.

    “What is more worrisome than the fact that the United States has an inadequate president, is that the public still accords the incumbent a significant degree of support.”


    • WTP said, on September 9, 2013 at 7:40 am

      Exactly. Thanks to a news media and education system that renders them impervious to logic and reason. Again, Twain. Once people think they “know” something, and have spent many, many years and much money to acquire this “knowledge”, it’s near impossible to dislodge it. That is the greatest danger. Undermining from within.

  47. magus71 said, on September 9, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    Recent cooling is caused by global warming. And so is the war in Syria. Ace of Spades….


  48. Douglas Moore said, on September 11, 2013 at 11:43 am

    Dems at work: Anthony Weiner says goodbye to the press after bowing out of the race. One thing you must learn, Mr. Weiner–NEVER piss off the media.

    Time for another WT Sherman quote: “If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world but I am sure we would be getting reports from hell before breakfast.”


    • Michael LaBossiere said, on September 12, 2013 at 1:25 pm

      Weiner should have learned the lesson of Socrates: vice leads to madness and self-destruction. Failing that, he should have at least heeded the advice of the sophists: in public, act in accord with the professed values of the masses.

      Goodbye for now, Carlos Danger.

      • Douglas Moore said, on September 12, 2013 at 2:26 pm

        “in public, act in accord with the professed values of the masses. ”

        I think Obama is well versed in this.

  49. WTP said, on September 14, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    AAUP (is Mike a member?) defends MSU professor who ranted against and threatened conservative students in his class. Is academic freedom only for faculty, not students?


  50. T. J. Babson said, on September 19, 2013 at 10:55 pm

    Life in a suffocatingly blue state.

    • magus71 said, on September 20, 2013 at 5:05 am

      I would have been arrested several times over as a young man for painting without a license. Licensing is mostly a way for the state to get even more money on the backs of workers. What evil is requiring a licence to landscape meant to prevent?

      Progressives love to make laws that they think help society, but often they have no proof that the laws will do anything of the sort. An example, in Bangor Maine, where I worked as a cop, the city passed an ordnance that allowed police to fine parents who smoked in their car with their children present. Most of the cops openly stated they would never right a ticket for such a thing. How many lives was this law saving? Turns out, not surprisingly, that the danger of second hand smoke was overstated:


      You’d be surprised at how many cops that I worked with held libertarian views. Many mocked city hall just in the way that soldiers mock politicians. Cops instinctively knew what was a just law–we all do. They didn’t pinch old ladies for jay walking.

      I watched Bangor morph into a Dystopian landscape. Slowly, the tinkering liberals types, you know the ones: Vegan-jihadists, global warming-jihadists, took over. Before long, a small city of 33, 000 people had 3 government-backed methadone clinics, dragging in criminals who would drive for hours to get a small sip of the narcotic everyday. A giant money making scam, is methadone. The government subsidizes the clinics, which have no incentive to cure the customer. I checked Maine off the places that I’m willing to live, and left. I’ll retire somewhere warm and red.

  51. magus71 said, on September 20, 2013 at 7:45 am

    Obama’s Peace Prize: He’s just awesome so if course he deserves it!

    • magus71 said, on September 20, 2013 at 8:07 am

      What exactly are college students learning again? These are the dumbest people I’ve heard speak in over a year. And that’s saying something.

      • WTP said, on September 20, 2013 at 11:02 pm

        Heh…I don’t think there’s much new there. New in the sense of the last 30-40 years. What used to fascinate me when I was younger was how some kids who got better grades than I did in school knew so little about current events or anything outside of a classroom. I remember when the russkies shot down that Korean airliner, my pre-med roommate’s study buddy knew nothing about it three.days after it happened and it was still a big news story. I’ve been suspicious of doctors ever since.

  52. T. J. Babson said, on September 22, 2013 at 8:29 am

    The Diplomad strikes again…

    I was reminded of the above event in Panama by a news story out a couple of days ago reporting on a Hillary Clinton event in Miami. It seems that her security personnel seized the camera from a member of audience and deleted a picture taken of her. It reminded me of the sort of demands we got from Hillary’s staff.

    First Lady of the USA (FLOTUS) Hillary Rodham Clinton was coming to Panama to participate in the First Ladies of the Americas Summit. The Embassy, of course, got tasked with working with FLOTUS staff to prepare her visit. Yours truly, at the time, Minister Counselor for Political and Economic Affairs, got tagged with taking the point in dealing with that staff.

    Her staff proved unbelievably arrogant and ignorant. They had zero interest in Panama, and only went along to see some sites because they had to do so. We had been told FLOTUS wanted activities after the “summit” that would strengthen US-Panama relations. The staff had no interest in the long US-Panamanian relationship, had no interest in the Canal, or in the very well run Panama Canal Museum. In the end, they decided that FLOTUS should do “something with Indians, you know, Indians.” They decided that she should have a photo-op at an Indian village reading to the kids and telling them about the importance of an education. The whole silly thing nearly came off the rails when the staff insisted that FLOTUS have secure telephone communication everywhere she went, including in the Indian village. I remember asking one staffer, “Why does she need secure commo? Is she going to be calling in the B-52s?” That did not endear me to the staffers, but in the end they had to give up the demand because of cost.

    We set up an absurd visit to a semi-fake Indian village just outside of the capital. Her people decided that the village, located in the jungle, did not look “jungly enough.” They went and rented huge numbers of big plants and had them trucked into the village to make it look more “jungly” for the video of Hillary reading to Indian kids.

    Now, what reminded me of all this when I read about her security grabbing a camera in Miami? FLOTUS staff made it clear to us, and the Secret Service agents confirmed, that Hillary did not want anybody getting closer than ten feet to her — including her security–and that nobody should ask for autographs. I took offense at that, and noted to her staffer, “Our people are professionals. We see a lot of celebrities. Nobody is going to ask for an autograph.”

    Well the visit happened; HIllary decided to have a “rope line” at the airport so that as she was leaving she could shake hands with some of the people from the Embassy who had made her visit possible. A female staffer approached me the day before, and sheepishly began talking about the “sort of people” Hillary wanted in her pictures. She said that the pictures should have a “certain look.” She kept beating about the bush re the rope line, and suddenly a light went on in my dim brain, “She doesn’t want fat or ugly people in her pictures, right?” The staffer nodded. I said, “OK, I’ll be sure to pass that on.”

    Of course, I didn’t, but I did make sure one old ugly guy was not at the departure ceremony, me.


    • magus71 said, on September 23, 2013 at 5:26 am

      “Her staff proved unbelievably arrogant and ignorant.”

      These are the people mostly comprising the Democrats, which is why I have a hard time missing an opportunity to make them uncomfortable with themselves. Elitish snobby brats. Frequently part of the vegan-lesbian-enviro-too many cats-atheist-Buddhist-nihilist-Darwinist-communist-anarchist military industrial complex.

      Inside story: When I was with the police department, our bomb squad would do bomb sweeps of the of the hotels before politicians came through. One secret service bomb tech was clearing a room that would be inhabited by the Clintons. There was a giant bowl of peanut MMs on a table. The agent grabs a giant handful and starts munching them, When asked what Hillary would think of that, the agent responded: “Fuck her.” They couldn’t stand her.

      On another occasion, a secret service agent recounted an episode in which Al Gore was riding in a limo with his son. The two were having an argument. Gore’s son was a real down and outer; sent to Harvard on the family name, he promptly became a drug addict. As Gore berated his son, and stepping from the limo, Gore says:” You keep this up, son, and you’ll end up like one of these door holders here.” He was pointing to the secret service agent holding his door open.

      On the other hand, they loved George Bush Sr, whose wife would cook them food and bring it to them everyday on the White House detail. We can usually accept a person that is either nice or competent, and can only hope they are both. Most Democrats are neither.

      Patton was a jackass, but a warfighter of the highest order.

  53. T. J. Babson said, on September 22, 2013 at 8:45 am

    What happens when you ask hard questions of Dems.

    • WTP said, on September 22, 2013 at 9:42 am

      There really need to be more synonyms for “pathetic”.

      I’ve worked with people from MD and my subdivision HQ was there. I found myself constantly saying “there’s something about Maryland…” And not in a good way.

    • magus71 said, on September 23, 2013 at 5:07 am

      I was going to post this. Pretty outrageous. Onward toward utopia. If something goes wrong a long the way, we’ll blame Bush.

  54. WTP said, on September 24, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    Presumptive next mayor of NYC is a Castro kissing Sandinista suck-up.


    I’m sure Mike would like him.

  55. magus71 said, on September 24, 2013 at 2:29 pm

    I find it disturbing, though nor surprising, that it’s so easy to find these types of people in the education establishment:


    A ham-fisted socialist maneuver Obama employed against traditional America that should have caused much greater alarm is the nationalization of the student loan industry. In the short term, this was an act of looting to help finance ObamaCare. But in the long term it is a step toward universal coercively financed college education, just as ObamaCare is a step toward socialized medicine. John Hawkins has collected some quotations from college professors that help explain why Obama et al. would want every American to go to college. A few examples:

    “We need to think very, very clearly about who the enemy is. The enemy is the United States of America and everyone who supports it.”
    — Haunani-Kay Trask, University of Hawaii at Manoa

    “The people of the Third World need our sympathetic understanding and, much more than that, they need our help. We can provide them with a margin of survival by internal disruption in the United States. Whether they can succeed against the kind of brutality we impose on them depends in large part on what happens here.”
    — Noam Chomsky, MIT

    “The only true heroes are those who find ways that help defeat the U.S. military… I personally would like to see a million Mogadishus.”
    — Nicholas De Genova, Columbia University

    “As to those in the World Trade Center… Let’s get a grip here, shall we? True enough, they were civilians of a sort. But innocent? Gimme a break. … If there was a better, more effective, or in fact any other way of visiting some penalty befitting their participation upon the little Eichmanns inhabiting the sterile sanctuary of the twin towers, I’d really be interested in hearing about it.”
    — Ward Churchill, University of Colorado at Boulder

    “I live to harass white folks.”
    — Derrick Bell, Harvard

    “My experience traveling the last ten years has been that the majority of people who are activists have stayed the course in a way, in a variety of ways, devoted to overthrowing everything hateful about this government and corporate structure that we live in; capitalism itself, herself, himself, and determined to try to keep open and figure out how to move on…We who are, as we used to say, in the belly of the beast, it again means not that it’s the only purveyor of violence in the world, but that we have an extraordinary special responsibility, not necessarily the most enviable one, of how to act here, inside the heart of the monster.”
    — Bernardine Dohrn, Northwestern University

    “Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, Kill your parents.”
    — Bill Ayers, University of Illinois at Chicago

    Note that nutty professors Ayers and Dohrn are personal friends of Obama, and literally launched his political career from their apartment. Obama has urged us to open our hearts and minds to the racist communist Bell.

    These evil lunatics don’t just run academia. They run the government too now. We are witnessing a coup d’état by the radical left.

  56. WTP said, on September 25, 2013 at 10:36 am

    What one can learn from the “liberal” arts…

    On Sunday evening, September 22, we sent an all-campus email advertising both Hamilton’s segregation, and the AHI’s discussion. The email mentioned that the college was segregating the event in the interest of creating a safe zone, and that we believed no safe zone was worth the price of segregation.


    On Thursday, in the name of creating a “safe zone,” Hamilton College will officially sponsor a segregated discussion about race.

    The Alexander Hamilton Institute believes that no safe zone is worth the price of segregation.

    All are welcome to join us for a conversation on race. Thursday (9/26) in the Sadove Conference Room (112) at 4:15.

    It will not be a safe zone.

    Within minutes, Mr. Taneja announced in an email that he had decided to open the event to all races. Shortly thereafter, we cancelled our event.

    I knew that our protests were controversial, but I was not expecting the eruption of anger, frustration, and even hatred that ensued.

    That night, I was threatened with violence and accused of white supremacy, almost entirely by students I had never met. My Twitter and Facebook feeds were filled with both fury and support over what the AHI had done. Since the emails were sent from my personal account, much of the emotion was directed at me. I had never seen my school so divided.


    Money well spent. I’ve seen some heated STEM discussions but nothing where violence was threatened. Guess that shows the value of liberal arts, philosophy, et al compared to the nonsense of STEM.

  57. WTP said, on October 11, 2013 at 7:24 pm

    Can anyone tell me what is the problem with the cannon ball? Someone might get splashed?


    • TJB said, on October 11, 2013 at 9:49 pm

      Maybe they are worried low information voters will forget that cannonballs require water.

    • magus71 said, on October 12, 2013 at 7:33 am

      The feminization of our culture. . I wrote a blog post a couple weeks back. It is well documented that women treat treat children differently than men; they focus on safety while men tend to encourage reasonable risk.

      I wrote:

      “Two days ago I was at the bus stop waiting for my 6 year old’s school bus. One mother scolded her 7 (?) year old boy for jogging on the grass around the bus stop, warning him that the grass was wet from dew and she didn’t want him to fall and hurt himself. I wanted to vomit, and probably would have had I eaten breakfast. This boy will probably grow to be an Army general officer of the current strain, claiming that fighting is dangerous and doesn’t win wars. The obsession with safety in the Army is indicative of the military’s feminization.

      …Part of the problem begins with the femininization of America. We are increasingly matriarchal.

      I’m not a big fan of most reality shows, but I do appreciate The Biggest Loser. The trainers don’t allow the participants to wallow in self-serving whimper parties and excuses, tactics which have served them well in an enabling society. I see this behavior in the chronically overweight and under-fit people in my office. When we do Army physical training in the morning, one fellow in particular will almost invariably start whimpering about this or that hurting. He gained about 20 pounds of fat while I was deployed (he stayed at Ft. Drum), mostly by drinking liquid sucrose multiple times per day (that health drink known as Gatorade) and because he simply can’t push himself hard in physical training unless someone else is there to make him push himself. My experience with soldiers such as this helped me to notice two common characteristics: 1) They have very low pain thresholds, 2) They are relatively immune to shame.

      The longer I am an NCO in the Army, the less patience I have for these types. I’m not talking about the person whom is merely slow or fat, but the person whom makes drama out of his discomfort in hopes of gaining an advantage over the people that are suffering right along with him, the person who expects the world to do all the work for him. Some of these people are irredeemable. They lack introspection and dignity. Some people have it, some don’t. Elite military units figure out if you have “it” before they hire you. They don’t train you to have it. Last week while leading physical training with two of my troops, the overweight NCO I spoke of above said he had a headache after we got done doing sprints. It was the usual drivel fro this guy, and the more he does it, the more I want to run him until he vomits (which he did, three times, several days prior). I’m 13 years older than he is, and wouldn’t dream of crying in front of my troops after a hard workout. The more he cries, the more I will run him, and make him swing kettlebells until his eyes bleed. When he began complaining, I exercised my right as an NCO is the US Army: I used shame and salty language to motivate. I said:

      “I have no fucking sympathy. None. Unless you have an arterial bleed I have no sympathy.”

      The US Special Forces encourages cannonballs.

  58. WTP said, on October 20, 2013 at 1:55 am

    Not that I have a position on the purpose of the producer of this piece, but this is what we are getting for our “investments” in education..,

    • magus71 said, on October 20, 2013 at 7:40 am

      How can “Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” possibly not be required reading at some point in school?

      • Michael LaBossiere said, on October 22, 2013 at 3:01 pm

        Make it into an app or give it a Facebook page. Then people might look at it.

        When I was a student, many students did not want to read. This seems to have increased a bit.

  59. T. J. Babson said, on October 23, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    The Alfred E. Neuman approach to government.

    It is the president’s signature achievement, arguably his only one. It’s going to roll out at a time when the GOP is bruised and looking for a counterattack. It is going to be a big mess; brutal press coverage will follow. It will provide confirmation for the GOP that Republicans were right all along about the president’s treasured program. And you, the secretary responsible for the program, don’t tell the White House?! In any other administration this would be inconceivable, but in the current one Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius might be telling the truth when she says the president — you guessed it — learned about the Obamacare debacle from the media.

    Consider how, if true, this deprived the president, the Democrats and the country of critical information that might, for example, have avoided the shutdown. Perhaps the president would have found an excuse to delay the rollout and gotten something for it from the Republicans. Maybe he wouldn’t have played hardball. It’s unclear whether knowing the Obamacare fiasco was coming would have changed the course of events, but the president was not allowed to make the decision because he lacked the requisite information; the shutdown followed and now the debacle comes as a big surprise. I can’t imagine why any president would keep a secretary around who botched his most important initiative and then kept it from him.

    This follows the explanation given about the Internal Revenue Service scandal in which the president claimed to be in the dark and the White House counsel said it was her job to keep things like that from the president. You ask what CEO says, “Don’t tell me — let me be blindsided by the media!”?

    Well, this president apparently operates that way. He and his close-knit advisers insist on a bad-news-ban around the Oval Office. Obama operates in a world without critical information — and that is his defense to two debacles. Critics understate the reluctance and inability of this president to lead and to govern. Primarily in the foreign policy context, his style has been characterized as dithering if not incoherent. But something more endemic and more worrisome is going on than simply “reluctant commander in chief” (although he certainly is that, too).


  60. WTP said, on October 23, 2013 at 1:55 pm

    $36,000 wasted, literally (and by literally I literally mean literally) flushed away:

    The reservoirs are drained twice a year for cleaning, and workers have found animal carcasses, paint cans, construction material, fireworks debris and even the plastic bags people use to scoop up after their dogs, said David Shaff, administrator of the city water bureau.

    Even so, Shaff said, the yuck factor was the primary reason for the decision to drain the 8 million gallons, at a cost of less than $8,000 to treat it as sewage.

    “Nobody wants to drink pee, and I don’t want to deal with the 100 people who would be unhappy that I’m serving them pee in their water,” he said. Shaff said the security cameras also showed something that’s still unidentified was thrown in the water, heightening concern about potential risks.

    City Commissioner Randy Leonard, who is in charge of the water bureau, defended the decision, citing a potential public health risk. He said he worried about the possibility of chlamydia or AIDS from blood in urine.

    In addition to the sewage charge, Shaff said, the flushed water is worth $28,000.


  61. T. J. Babson said, on October 23, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    Stupid. I wish there were only pee in the drinking water…

  62. WTP said, on October 25, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    Don’t piss off a children’s librarian by even suggesting content rating for children’s books. Such a rating system would be the same as censorship. To suggest such will get you censored from FB…


    Meanwhile, a Kill George Zimmerman page is A-OK. Something about private/public figures, you know…


  63. T. J. Babson said, on October 28, 2013 at 9:02 am

    Obama lied, millions of health plans died.

  64. magus71 said, on October 28, 2013 at 12:30 pm

    • WTP said, on October 28, 2013 at 3:21 pm

      You want to discuss lies with a sophist? Only two possible responses, 1) They’re not really lies OR 2) Everyone does it. Did you see this at Ace?:


      Actually, Politifact said it was half-true — but it was only partly false due to the insurance companies’ ability to terminate you at will, not due to anything in ObamaCare requiring them to terminate your policies.

      In other words, PolitiFact claimed the only people who’d terminate your insurance policy were the insurers themselves, acting for their own ends. ObamaCare itself, however, would not require the termination of your policy.

      You can read “PolitiFact’s” ruling here, and then ponder at what point they will rate the truthfulness of their own partisan political claims.

      Via @AG_Conservative:
      This happens all the time with Politifact. A R opinion is judged as false, while a completely false statement from a D becomes “half true”.:

      He compares PolitiFact’s determination to rescue false Obama statements to their opposite determination to find Republican statements false, no matter how true they are.

      • Anonymous said, on October 28, 2013 at 4:11 pm

        Well, I disagree with Politifact. People in fact, *cannot* keep the insurance they have, as Obama said they would be able. Lie.

        • Anonymous said, on October 28, 2013 at 4:21 pm

          Magus above.

        • Michael LaBossiere said, on October 29, 2013 at 8:39 pm

          Some can-mine is staying the same. Large businesses and such will most likely keep the same policies. But, people are getting cancellation notices-sent by the insurance companies and based on their decision to do so.

          But, Obamacare will be remembered for its rough and punishing startup.

          • WTP said, on October 29, 2013 at 11:51 pm

            Toe that party line. Blame the insurance companies to cover for the documented, indisputable lies of this administration. To make such arguments and still profess any sort of objectivity is dispicable. But, hey, you’re comfortable with that, right?

  65. T. J. Babson said, on October 28, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    Even NBC admits Obama lied.

    President Obama repeatedly assured Americans that after the Affordable Care Act became law, people who liked their health insurance would be able to keep it. But millions of Americans are getting or are about to get cancellation letters for their health insurance under Obamacare, say experts, and the Obama administration has known that for at least three years.

    Four sources deeply involved in the Affordable Care Act tell NBC NEWS that 50 to 75 percent of the 14 million consumers who buy their insurance individually can expect to receive a “cancellation” letter or the equivalent over the next year because their existing policies don’t meet the standards mandated by the new health care law. One expert predicts that number could reach as high as 80 percent. And all say that many of those forced to buy pricier new policies will experience “sticker shock.”


  66. WTP said, on October 28, 2013 at 10:06 pm

    How can you fail when you pick advisors such as this:

    Whether Jarrett’s influence is all too real or exaggerated is unknowable. What is known is the extent to which she has long been a peerless enabler of Barack Obama’s inflated opinion of himself. Consider this quote from New Yorker editor David Remnick’s interview with her for his 2010 book The Bridge.

    “I think Barack knew that he had God-given talents that were extraordinary. He knows exactly how smart he is. . . . He knows how perceptive he is. He knows what a good reader of people he is. And he knows that he has the ability — the extraordinary, uncanny ability — to take a thousand different perspectives, digest them and make sense out of them, and I think that he has never really been challenged intellectually. . . . So what I sensed in him was not just a restless spirit but somebody with such extraordinary talents that had to be really taxed in order for him to be happy. . . . He’s been bored to death his whole life. He’s just too talented to do what ordinary people do.”


  67. T. J. Babson said, on October 29, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    The dam has broken.

  68. WTP said, on October 29, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    More of Teh Stupid ™:

    Comedy Gold: Obama Stooge Jim Messina Frustrated With Intuit QuickBooks Online

    Hey, can you imagine someone being stuck with poor customer service? It all seems so familiar. Let’s all nominate Obama campaign manager Jim Messina for today’s Lack of Self-Awareness Award.

    Poor Jim apparently has some question for the folks at Intuit Quickbooks Online and is baffled at the poor customer service.

    6 transfers, almost 2 hours, and 2 hang ups and Inuit finally fixes it. I think my quickbooks experiment will be short. #notsoquickbooks

    — Jim Messina (@Messina2012) October 29, 2013


  69. WTP said, on October 30, 2013 at 12:12 am

    And more from the “education” front. UGA students don’t want no steenking success. How much more f’d up can lib arts studies get?


    GA Tech should us this as a recruiting poster.

  70. T. J. Babson said, on October 31, 2013 at 7:37 am

    Mike, any comment?

    • Michael LaBossiere said, on October 31, 2013 at 12:35 pm

      Sure, the companies could have brought their policies up to spec. To use an analogy, if the building codes require X and the landlords decide to kick people out rather than get buildings up to code, who is morally most at fault for people being given the boot?

      • T. J. Babson said, on November 5, 2013 at 9:08 am

        WASHINGTON – After multiple top generals described to WND what they regard as a full-scale “purge” of the U.S. military by the Obama administration, the commander of U.S. Army Garrison Japan was summarily relieved of duty and his civilian deputy reassigned, pending a “misconduct” investigation.

        Nine generals and flag officers have been relieved of duty under Obama just this year – widely viewed as an extraordinary number – and several sources put the total number of senior officers purged during the five years of the Obama administration as close to 200.

        In response, prominent retired generals – ranging from Army Maj. Gen. Paul E. Vallely, a Fox News senior military analyst, to Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin, a founder of the Army’s elite Delta Force, to Medal of Honor recipient Maj. Gen. Patrick Henry Brady – have all gone on the record with WND, characterizing Obama’s actions as nothing less than an all-out attack on America’s armed forces.

        According to U.S. Army Japan, Col. Eric Tilley was suspended from his job by Maj. Gen. James C. Boozer Sr., commander of U.S. Army Japan and I Corps (Forward) for a “lack of confidence” based on the results of an inquiry.

        A spokesman for U.S. Army Japan, Maj. Kevin Toner, would not elaborate on what prompted a “lack of confidence,” saying it would be “inappropriate to make public the allegations because the investigation did not lead to findings of criminal misconduct.”

        Tilley is to be replaced by Col. Joy Curriera.

        Tilley’s dismissal is only the latest in what retired Navy Capt. Joseph John refers to as a “bigger picture” in which some “135 senior officers have been purged.”

        “The ‘bigger picture,’” John told WND, “is that the U.S. Armed Forces have been under relentless attack by the occupant of the Oval Office for five years.”


        • magus71 said, on November 5, 2013 at 9:55 am

          Just remember, TJ, most people in enforcement arms think like you and I. Obama is easily the most corrupt and autocratic president in our history, and most people with the mindset that makes them want to join law enforcement or even the NSA, don’t like him.

          The high ranking people who don’t agree with Obama get purged. Period.

      • T. J. Babson said, on November 5, 2013 at 9:09 am

        No problem with Obama administration muzzling private companies?

      • WTP said, on November 5, 2013 at 9:56 am

        Sure, the companies could have brought their policies up to spec.

        Just saw this little gem. Is there no extreme you won’t go to to defend the indefensible? And using your analogy:

        if the building codes require X and the landlords decide to kick people out rather than get buildings up to code, who is morally most at fault for people being given the boot?

        The people FORCING the landlords to retrofit their building to the new codes. Making unreasonable demands, and these demands are unreasonable if you expect or DEMAND that rents (prices) remain the same, then the politicians making the unreasonable demands are at fault. You have never run a serious business and have no f’ing idea how one is run. And yet you have the nerve to tell other people what their standards should be. And this coming from a college professor, where sh*t like tenure is commonly expected practice.

        When colleges and universities increase the work load for their professors, if the professors refuse to do that increased amount of work for that same wage who is at fault? The professors or the universities?

        • WTP said, on November 5, 2013 at 11:10 am

          And I might also add in regard to building codes, when the codes in Central Florida, where pretty much every home is one story, or two story with no significant drop at worst, to DEMAND that a 2400 sq. ft. home have 7 (SEVEN) fire alarms or that a 2700 sq. ft. home I recently spent some time in have 11 (ELEVEN!!! it’s LOUDER) fire alarms, government specifications have run a muck.

      • WTP said, on November 5, 2013 at 10:19 pm

        and again the companies could have brought their policies up to spec It needs to be repeated and repeated and repeated again and again and again to refute the lying, the sophistry which partisans like Mike will repeat themselves…The program was sold on “if you like your plan you can keep it. Period.” Nothing was said about specs, etc.

        For Mike to continue to claim to be a philosopher and not a parrot of the Democratic party line is shameful.

      • WTP said, on November 8, 2013 at 5:12 pm

        As for bringing policies “up to spec”…Here’s the “specs” that were promised by Obama and his minions…you’ll note this one escpecially:

        Remarks in Shaker Heights, Ohio, July 23, 2009: “Reform will keep the government out of your health care decisions, giving you the option to keep your coverage if you’re happy with it.”

        As for the rest of the lies:

        Obama’s comments before the law passed

        • White House Web page: “Linda Douglass of the White House Office of Health Reform debunks the myth that reform will force you out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors. To the contrary, reform will expand your choices, not eliminate them. ” (Spanish-language version.)

        • White House Web page: “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.”

        • President’s weekly address, June 6, 2009: “If you like the plan you have, you can keep it. If you like the doctor you have, you can keep your doctor, too. The only change you’ll see are falling costs as our reforms take hold.”

        • Town hall in Green Bay, Wis., June 11, 2009: “No matter how we reform health care, I intend to keep this promise: If you like your doctor, you’ll be able to keep your doctor; if you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan.”

        • Remarks at the American Medical Association, June 15, 2009: “I know that there are millions of Americans who are content with their health care coverage — they like their plan and, most importantly, they value their relationship with their doctor. They trust you. And that means that no matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise to the American people: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what.”

        • Presidential press conference, June 23, 2009. “If you like your plan and you like your doctor, you won’t have to do a thing. You keep your plan. You keep your doctor.”

        • Rose Garden remarks, July 15, 2009. “If you like your doctor or health care provider, you can keep them. If you like your health care plan, you can keep that too.”

        • Remarks at a rally for New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine, July 16, 2009: “if you’ve got health insurance, you like your doctor, you like your plan — you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan. Nobody is talking about taking that away from you.”

        • Presidential weekly address, July 18, 2009: “Michelle and I don’t want anyone telling us who our family’s doctor should be – and no one should decide that for you either. Under our proposals, if you like your doctor, you keep your doctor. If you like your current insurance, you keep that insurance. Period, end of story.”

        • Rose Garden remarks, July 21, 2009: “If you like your current plan, you will be able to keep it. Let me repeat that: If you like your plan, you’ll be able to keep it.”

        • Remarks in Shaker Heights, Ohio, July 23, 2009: “Reform will keep the government out of your health care decisions, giving you the option to keep your coverage if you’re happy with it.”

        • Town hall in Raleigh, N.C., July 29, 2009: “I have been as clear as I can be. Under the reform I’ve proposed, if you like your doctor, you keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you keep your health care plan. These folks need to stop scaring everybody. Nobody is talking about you forcing … to change your plans.”

        • Presidential weekly address, Aug. 8, 2009: “Under the reforms we seek, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.”

        • Town hall in Portsmouth, N.H., Aug. 11, 2009: “Under the reform we’re proposing, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.”

        • Town hall in Belgrade, Mont., Aug. 14, 2009: “If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan. This is not some government takeover. If you like your doctor, you can keep seeing your doctor. This is important.”

        • Presidential weekly address, Aug. 15, 2009: “No matter what you’ve heard, if you like your doctor or health care plan, you can keep it.”

        • Town hall in Grand Junction, Colo., Aug. 15, 2009: “I just want to be completely clear about this. I keep on saying this but somehow folks aren’t listening — if you like your health care plan, you keep your health care plan. Nobody is going to force you to leave your health care plan. If you like your doctor, you keep seeing your doctor.”

        • Remarks to Organizing for America, Aug. 20, 2009: “No matter what you’ve heard, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor under the reform proposals that we’ve put forward. If you like your private health insurance plan, you can keep it.”

        • Presidential weekly address, Aug. 22, 2009: “Under the reform we seek, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your private health insurance plan, you can keep your plan. Period.”

        • Remarks on health care reform, March 3, 2010: “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Because I can tell you that as the father of two young girls, I wouldn’t want any plan that interferes with the relationship between a family and their doctor.”

        • Presidential weekly address, March 6, 2010: “What won’t change when this bill is signed is this: If you like the insurance plan you have now, you can keep it. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Because nothing should get in the way of the relationship between a family and their doctor.”

        • Remarks in Glenside, Pa., March 8, 2010: “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.”

        • Remarks in St. Charles, Mo., March 10, 2010: ” If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.”

        • Remarks in St. Louis, Mo., March 10, 2010: “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. I’m the father of two young girls –- I don’t want anybody interfering between my family and their doctor.”

        • Remarks in Strongsville, Ohio, March 15, 2010: “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. I don’t want to interfere with people’s relationships between them and their doctors.”

        • Remarks in Fairfax, Va., March 19, 2010: “If you like your doctor, you’re going to be able to keep your doctor. If you like your plan, keep your plan. I don’t believe we should give government or the insurance companies more control over health care in America. I think it’s time to give you, the American people, more control over your health.”

        Obama’s comments between the law’s signing and the release of the HHS regulations

        • White House web page: “For those Americans who already have health insurance, the only changes you will see under the law are new benefits, better protections from insurance company abuses, and more value for every dollar you spend on health care. If you like your plan you can keep it and you don’t have to change a thing due to the health care law.”

        • Remarks in Iowa City, Iowa, March 25, 2010: “You like your plan? You’ll be keeping your plan. No one is taking that away from you.”

        • Remarks in Portland, Maine, April 1, 2010: The critics will “see that if Americans like their doctor, they will keep their doctor. And if you like your insurance plan, you will keep it. No one will be able to take that away from you. It hasn’t happened yet. It won’t happen in the future.”

        • White House blog post by Stephanie Cutter, May 18, 2010: “A key point to remember is that while the Act makes many changes to the individual market, it specifically allows those who want to keep their current insurance to do so. Most of the Act’s protections apply only to new policies, allowing people to stick with their current plan if they prefer.”

        After the release of the HHS regulations

        • Kathleen Sebelius blog post, June 14, 2010: “The bottom line is that under the Affordable Care Act, if you like your doctor and plan, you can keep them.”

        • White House blog post by Stephanie Cutter. “Another important step we’ve taken is to fulfill President Obama’s promise that ‘if you like your health plan, you can keep it.’ Last week, Secretary Sebelius and Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis announced a new rule that protects the ability of individuals and businesses to keep their current plan. It outlines conditions under which current plans can be ‘grandfathered’ into the system, minimizing market disruption and putting us all on the path toward the competitive, patient-centered market of the future.”

        • Remarks on the Affordable Care Act Supreme Court ruling, June 28, 2012: “If you’re one of the more than 250 million Americans who already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance — this law will only make it more secure and more affordable.”

        • Campaign event in Pittsburgh, July 6, 2012: “If you have health insurance, the only thing that changes for you is you’re more secure because insurance companies can’t drop you when you get sick.”

        • Campaign event in Virginia Beach, Va., July 13, 2012: “If you already have health care, the only thing this bill does is make sure that it’s even more secure and insurance companies can’t jerk you around.”

        • First presidential debate in Denver, Oct. 3, 2012: “If you’ve got health insurance, it doesn’t mean a government takeover. You keep your own insurance. You keep your own doctor. But it does say insurance companies can’t jerk you around.”

        • Remarks in Largo, Md., Sept. 26, 2013: “Now, let’s start with the fact that even before the Affordable Care Act fully takes effect, about 85 percent of Americans already have health insurance — either through their job, or through Medicare, or through the individual market. So if you’re one of these folks, it’s reasonable that you might worry whether health care reform is going to create changes that are a problem for you — especially when you’re bombarded with all sorts of fear-mongering. So the first thing you need to know is this: If you already have health care, you don’t have to do anything.”

  71. WTP said, on November 11, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    What academia has descended to. Freedom’s just another word for get the f*ck off MY campus.

    * In 2009, students at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, brought Republican Congressman Tom Tancredo’s talk about illegal immigration to a halt by shouting him down.
    * In 2002, a scheduled lecture by then Foreign Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was cancelled at Concordia University after protesters became violent.
    * Violence broke out when members of the Minutemen visited Columbia to speak. Left-wing protesters shouted Minutemen co-founder Jim Gilchrist, took to the stage, and waved protest banners.
    * UC Irvine students shout down Israel’s Ambassador to the US
    * Former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales heckled by students at UF.

    Wherever do these students get these ideas about ideas?


    • magus71 said, on November 11, 2013 at 6:28 pm

      My favorite was when WF Buckley would get harassed at Yale when he visited. As if Buckley brought anything classically un-American to any forum. But it’s the classical America they hate the most. Libs still think we stole, warred, and enslaved our way to success.

      • T. J. Babson said, on November 11, 2013 at 9:56 pm


  72. T. J. Babson said, on November 11, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    The labor force participation rate — or all employed and unemployed people — in accordance with the decline, also hit a record low at 62.8 percent.

    When President Obama took office in January 2009, the labor force participation rate was 65.7 percent.

    From January 2009 to October 2013, more than 11 million people have dropped out of the labor force — from 80,507,000 to October’s 91,541,000.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/11/record-high-91-5-million-people-not-included-in-labor-force/#ixzz2kOPGHLQd

  73. magus71 said, on November 13, 2013 at 10:11 am

    Secret Service Agent: Obama is a toxic, vindictive president.

    “That wasn’t necessarily the case with the Clintons, and I was pretty much enmeshed in Hillary’s Senate campaign. Although I disagreed with a lot of their political positions . . . I can’t tell you that they thought government was a weapon exclusively to intimidate their enemies. But this administration constantly seems to use government [as a weapon] because they are inexperienced with it — it’s like giving a kid a Bowie knife and saying, ‘Have fun.’ They gave this administration which has no experience the reins of government and they have just gone wild.”
    Bongino said he grew tired of listening to Obama talk. “Protecting President Clinton, I never found his speeches to be toxic, like if you disagreed you were his mortal enemy. With Obama, you are not just his political enemy, you are his real enemy if you disagreed. I couldn’t listen to it any more.”


  74. magus71 said, on November 13, 2013 at 10:42 am

    Scientific consensus at it again. I prefer to think for myself.


  75. WTP said, on November 13, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    Not Democrats specifically at work here. UK Liberals, etc. But the story’s the same. Remember to come back to this the next (first?) time Mike turns his critical eye toward the Religion of Peace.

    So is the London art world. After she told the Danish court she would sooner go to prison than pay its 5,000 kroner (£550) fine, the indomitable Bazrafkan headed for Passion for Freedom. The annual exhibition is as close as London gets to underground art. That claim may surprise you. If you listen to artists, writers, academics and journalists, you would think that thousands of them operate in a radical underground. They say the right things. They ‘speak truth to power’, ‘transgress boundaries’, and all the rest of it. But you will have noticed that they are careful only to challenge religions that won’t hurt them (Christianity) and governments that won’t arrest them (democracies). The London-based Polish intellectuals who organise this artistic protest against abuses of human rights are braver. Passion for Freedom is not devoted to anti-Islamist art. But its curators are not frightened to show it either.


    • T. J. Babson said, on November 13, 2013 at 2:02 pm

      Jailed for two years over a Moscow cathedral protest, the feminist political campaigner is being moved by train to serve the remainder of her sentence in Siberia, says her husband Peter Verzilov. But for the last three weeks he and her lawyers have had no contact with her.

      He has based himself in Kransoyarsk region – where she was born – after being tipped off this is where the prison authorities will move her.

      ‘We are absolutely sure she is alive, but her health is the major concern,’ he said. ‘We have no trust to the adequacy of prison health, so she may have serious problems with her health.’

      Nadezhda had demanded a jail switch claiming that in Mordovia she was subject to slave labour conditions and a threat to her life. The Pussy Riot performer went on two hunger strikes to get her demands met.

      ‘We have no news yet, we still are in the dark,’ her husband told The Siberian Times in Krasnoyarsk city. ‘We think with a high probability she will arrive here. At least, we have no other information’.


    • magus71 said, on November 13, 2013 at 6:19 pm

      Hunting Christians is mostly like hunting cows. What we see is that violence and its threat work very well. Stockholm Syndrome of a grand scale.

      • T. J. Babson said, on November 13, 2013 at 9:16 pm

        The West has lost confidence in itself. I blame the oikophobes.

        • WTP said, on November 14, 2013 at 7:04 am

          And specifically they would be …?

        • T. J. Babson said, on November 14, 2013 at 12:47 pm

          The usual suspects: Hollywood, liberal elites, etc.

          • WTP said, on November 14, 2013 at 1:48 pm

            Disagree for reasons I suspected and thus I had to ask. Though “etc.” is still quite an open specific. While Hollywood and the liberal elites are a part of the problem, they are the tail of the dog. When either category steps out of line there is no push back from those whom we have entrusted the responsibility of professional skepticism. The news media and academia are the root of the problem. Hollywood and the leftist elites amplify the problem. And let’s be honest, there are a considerable number of rightist elites but this is the very reason they hold little sway. The news media and academia show them zero respect and most often downright demonize them. Just last night I saw John Stewart call Sarah Palin racist based on nothing more than of course everyone thinks so. Meanwhile Joe Biden spouts off bigoted idiotic comments that hold all the media staying power of a mouse fart.

            Also, I would take issue with the passive “lost confidence in itself”. Chuck Knobloch is my go-to example of someone of enormous talent losing confidence. That’s not what I see here. What has happened in the West has been a concerted, deliberate effort by those in academia and the news media to slant their presentations of reality decidedly in one direction under the guise of, if I might paraphrase from above, speaking truth to power’, ‘transgressing boundaries’…that they are careful only to challenge religions that won’t hurt them (Christianity) and governments that won’t arrest them (democracies). Whether or not this was initiated and enhanced by the efforts of our cold war enemies is neither here nor there to the point here. These institutions have actively engaged in creating much failure in our western societies and they have been doing so for generations now. As older, wiser, more mature and reflective citizenry (Greatest Generation, etc.) pass away, their ranks are being replaced by these masses of weak, ineffectual Occupiers and their apologists/enablers. This problem is not going to go away easily or quietly. The days when this problem could be addressed by subtle suggestion and prodding are long past.

            • T. J. Babson said, on November 14, 2013 at 4:04 pm

              WTP, I agree to some extent. Clearly the media and academe are culpable.

              But isn’t it really only the elite media and elite universities that are to blame? All the others take their cues from the elites.

              Let’s compare the cultural influence of a university like Florida State with a university like Harvard. FSU has a miniscule cultural influence, whereas Harvard has an enormous cultural influence.

            • Michael LaBossiere said, on November 14, 2013 at 5:17 pm

              FSU used to be the #1 party school, so don’t knock it about being under the influence. Percentage wise, it probably had more students under the influence than any other school.

            • WTP said, on November 14, 2013 at 6:42 pm

              Things get a little close to home and out comes the clown nose…but I digress…

              We’re getting close to semantics here, but FSU’s following the influence of Harvard is part and parcel to the problem that general academia presents. And as a Gator and also one who loathes much of Harvard, I would argue neither school is as influential or damaging as the much broader number of even smaller yet much further leftist schools across the country from Bryn Mawr to Oberlin to Wellesley. Oh, yeah, and Ohio State. It’s the volume of students indoctrinated and the time it takes for the wiser masses of them to wake up to what has been done to them. The wasted potential. The insinuation that getting a decent job makes you some sort of corporate worker-bee robot, but joining the unproductive masses arguing the modern equivalent as to how many angels fit on the head of a pin. This is very hard to break.

              Friend of mine from high school attended a small lib arts college in GA back in the ’80s. He did not come from wealth such that he could rely on family support once out of school. He’s bummed around with various jobs from airport ramp rat to pizza delivery to quasi-ponzi scheme jobs selling phone cards and such. Yet he couldn’t take a “corporate” job that was “below” him. Sad that a guy pushing 50 still has the mentality he was steeped in as a young man. Posted a picture of myself wearing a tie on FB and he had to comment “Corporate whore”. While he was joking, it speaks to the mind set he’s still stuck in. I hate seeing that in people, especially those I care about. I know where it comes from and it is a very bad thing for this country. OK, I’m rambling a bit, but if we don’t identify the problem precisely and explicitly, we will never solve it.

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